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All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 1, 2010 23:09:44 GMT 1

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Tufta, in Polish forums a guy who probably lives in Warsaw posted this:

I strolled around the cemeteries in my area today, and was rather shocked. I was under the impression that today was a day for thoughtful reminiscing of the past; a moment of reflection for those who came before.
Among the flower and candle sellers this time, however, were hot dogs, candy floss, cheap Chinese toys and Haribo zelki. Is this disrespectful, or is it a changing attitude that this is a family event; that tombs and graves don't demand solemn ceremony?
I'm not particularly fond of this holiday anyway, but I'm interested in whether the Polish members here find this sort of commercialism offensive.

My answer was very straighforward but that is the style there ;D ;D ;D ;D:

It is simply impossible. I won`t believe you until I see photos. I visited 4 cemeteries today and saw none of that.
Sorry but I think you are lying.

Can you tell us what is going on in Warsaw on 1 November?

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All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 2, 2010 7:58:01 GMT 1

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Post by tufta on Nov 2, 2010 7:58:01 GMT 1

Nov 1, 2010 23:09:44 GMT 1 Bonobo said:

Can you tell us what is going on in Warsaw on 1 November?

The guy said the truth. But please notice he said

"Among the flower and candle sellers this time, however, were hot dogs, candy floss, cheap Chinese toys and Haribo zelki"

Among the sellers, which means outside the cemeteries. Inside the cemeteries all is as it used to be. In the past one could buy just the lanterns and flowers, here are there there was a small stall with pańska skórka and obwarzanki, so this is the change. I even said to my wife ' the All Saints podsiąka with Helloween and Mexico'

Yes here and there on the stall there are small pumpkins!

What has not gone away however is the 'reminiscing of the past'. or so it seems, or maybe I just hope and homo ludens has already totally hijacked Polish culture.

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All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 2, 2010 22:52:06 GMT 1

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Nov 2, 2010 7:58:01 GMT 1 tufta said:

The guy said the truth.

Oops. I will have to apologise.

I even said to my wife ' the All Saints podsiąka with Helloween and Mexico'

Yes here and there on the stall there are small pumpkins!

Times and customs change.

What has not gone away however is the 'reminiscing of the past'. or so it seems, or maybe I just hope and homo ludens has already totally hijacked Polish culture.

I am afraid Pepsi Cola culture is a serious threat. And we have no will to repel it.

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Bonobo Administrator Posts: 17,719	All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 11, 2010 0:57:07 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bonobo on Nov 11, 2010 0:57:07 GMT 1 On 1 November and around, distant family members get together for a while.
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valpomike Professor Posts: 4,434	All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 11, 2010 16:46:32 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by valpomike on Nov 11, 2010 16:46:32 GMT 1 Any time that brings family and friend together is a good one. Mike

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All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 12, 2010 2:29:42 GMT 1

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Post by jeanne on Nov 12, 2010 2:29:42 GMT 1

Nov 11, 2010 16:46:32 GMT 1 valpomike said:

Any time that brings family and friend together is a good one.

Mike

Very eloquently said, Mike...I agree. Even if the occasion is a sad one, say for example a funeral, the being together is a good thing.

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All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 25, 2010 19:43:34 GMT 1

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Post by Bonobo on Nov 25, 2010 19:43:34 GMT 1

Foreign influence - I got it from my students.

Tradition holds strong:

RIDDLE SOLVED

Forlorn graves

but someone still honours the dead

They should remove the rubbish during the day, not wait till midnight.

Fallen Airmen monument.

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Bonobo Administrator Posts: 17,719	All Saints` Day - 1 November Oct 31, 2011 17:03:10 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bonobo on Oct 31, 2011 17:03:10 GMT 1 Poles are less dogmatic than I thought. Instead of on 1 November, we went to some graves yesterday. Today my sister visited 3 cemeteries. I can post pics soon. Or maybe you don`t need to see them?
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uncltim Just born I oppose most nonsense. Posts: 71	All Saints` Day - 1 November Oct 31, 2011 22:57:38 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by uncltim on Oct 31, 2011 22:57:38 GMT 1 I hope you post them.

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All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 1, 2011 1:31:54 GMT 1

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Post by jeanne on Nov 1, 2011 1:31:54 GMT 1

Oct 31, 2011 17:03:10 GMT 1 Bonobo said:

Poles are less dogmatic than I thought. Instead of on 1 November, we went to some graves yesterday. Today my sister visited 3 cemeteries.
I can post pics soon. Or maybe you don`t need to see them?

I would say October 30th is close enough to November 1st to still count... The past couple of years when I observed "Polish All Saints' Day" by visiting my father's grave, I had to go on the weekend closest to Nov. 1st because Nov. 1st isn't a holiday here and we have to work that day.

Of course you should post the pictures...unless it will interfere with your recovery...

Bonobo Administrator Posts: 17,719	All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 1, 2011 9:51:07 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bonobo on Nov 1, 2011 9:51:07 GMT 1 OK, but before I post pics, I will give you one more chance with Riddles.
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uncltim Just born I oppose most nonsense. Posts: 71	All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 1, 2011 17:50:59 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by uncltim on Nov 1, 2011 17:50:59 GMT 1 Challenge accepted.

Bonobo Administrator Posts: 17,719	All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 1, 2011 22:13:16 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bonobo on Nov 1, 2011 22:13:16 GMT 1 Nov 1, 2011 17:50:59 GMT 1 uncltim said: Challenge accepted. Good luck, then. ;D polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=riddles&thread=107&page=17#25370
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Bonobo Administrator Posts: 17,719	All Saints` Day - 1 November Nov 13, 2011 23:44:17 GMT 1 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Bonobo on Nov 13, 2011 23:44:17 GMT 1 2011 Three light effects for the same grave 1 2 3 Solitary lanterns are the most moving.
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All Saints` Day - 1 November

Post by Bonobo on Nov 1, 2010 23:09:44 GMT 1

Post by tufta on Nov 2, 2010 7:58:01 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Nov 2, 2010 22:52:06 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Nov 11, 2010 0:57:07 GMT 1

Post by valpomike on Nov 11, 2010 16:46:32 GMT 1

Post by jeanne on Nov 12, 2010 2:29:42 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Nov 25, 2010 19:43:34 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Oct 31, 2011 17:03:10 GMT 1

Post by uncltim on Oct 31, 2011 22:57:38 GMT 1

Post by jeanne on Nov 1, 2011 1:31:54 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Nov 1, 2011 9:51:07 GMT 1

Post by uncltim on Nov 1, 2011 17:50:59 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Nov 1, 2011 22:13:16 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Nov 13, 2011 23:44:17 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Jan 4, 2016 0:14:34 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Feb 19, 2017 2:56:55 GMT 1

Post by Bonobo on Feb 26, 2017 18:58:02 GMT 1