This article is about a student dorm in Holland which is shared by Polish seasonal workers and Dutch students who are getting more and more upset about their Polish neighbours who drink too much and then fight, also don`t care about the common property. Horror in Amsterdam. They fear Poles. www.fakt.pl/wydarzenia/swiat/groza-w-amsterdamie-boja-sie-polakow/mb16ldg
Well, every nation has its own low class, Poland isn`t an exception here, not all Poles are intelligent and decent as you might think, judging from this forum.
I have Polish living in the flat above me. They are rancid horrible, lazy, noisy, ignorant, cowardly people. They make noise all day and night and when I go to the door they reluctantly answer and when they do its so ignorant. I have been threatened by them with a so called 'Polish Mafia!!' for no reason at all, when I do ask them to keep their noise down as I have a 15 year old daughter studying for her gcse's they pretend not to understand me and ignore me further, laughing at me behind their door and then being noisier. They are filthy and leave rubbish in their back garden that attracts rats etc, and makes our neighbourhood look like a landfill. They are privately buying their house so my council refuse to do anything regarding the above issues, its bad to say this but Poles are forcing Brits out their houses......
Send them all back....
Christine Clark • 3 months ago
I never gave polish immigrants much thought until i got polish neighbours but now i don't like these neighbours because they have taken over my back garden and even have the audacity to leave me to put out their rubbish on collection day, they are extremely nosey even going to the bother of putting up cctv so they don't miss a thing happening ie parcel deliveries etc. The female gossips about everyone, their dog barks inside and out , they do diy all hours shout and have people round and the dog barks aswell as them all shouting and the street is full of their cars and she leaves notices in the building telling other neighbours how to behave!!!. But the other polish family are very nice always taking the time to say hello, how are you?. But i would like them with many other nationalities to be sent back to their home towns. It angers me when i hear of all the crime being commited by immigrants. They should be made to do a jail sentence here then deported immediately after.
Rose Dabiak Christine Clark • 3 months ago
unfortunately Quite big number of Poles that immigrated To UK are plebs and quite openly show it off as if it is something to be proud of. The type of people with no higher education who wouldn't normally surwive in Poland.....most of the time you can see them wearing jogging bottoms and swearing a lot. I am Polish myself and noticed quite a lot of these idiots lately, that in no way Represent The decent lot I know....
About 30% of all homeless in German cities can be Polish. They don`t want to go back, are too ashamed to face families and friends and explain why they didn`t make it in the West. They also don`t want to take up regular work although it wouldn`t be a problem. Life of a homeless person in Berlin is much easier than in Warsaw.
Half of homeless in Berlin are Polish: report 30.10.2017 08:45 Half of the rough sleepers in the German capital are Polish nationals, German news outlet Deutsche Welle has reported. City authorities and charity organisations in Berlin expect Poland and other Central and Eastern European countries to pull their weight in helping their homeless compatriots by providing financial help and social workers, said Ortrud Wohlwend, from the Berlin-based Stadtmission organisation.
Foreign rough sleepers in Germany are not entitled to any help from the state. They do have the right to medical care as EU citizens, however, and may apply for unemployment benefit after five years of living in the country.
But poor language skills, lack of personal documents and insufficient knowledge keep them from obtaining this form of assistance.
In recent years, citizens from Central and Eastern Europe have doubled the number of homeless in Berlin roughly from 3,000 to 6,000 people, although the exact numbers are unknown, Wohlwend said. The figure gradually went up after 2011 when the German labour market became fully accessible to new EU member states, including Poland.
“Berlin made multiple attempts at contacting the embassies of central and eastern European countries with regard to such help – to no avail”, said Karin Rietz, from the press office of Elke Breitenbach, Berlin’s Senator for Social Affairs. (aba/pk)
We have some problems with Polish migrants too. But what the media forget is that the majority of them are hard working, decent and even quiet people. The rotten apples spoil it for the others. The main problems with some Poles are drunk Poles, fast driving Poles, Poles who suddenly cross a highway, which is prohibited in the Netherlands. Several Poles died or became heavily wounded. We have a modern infrastructure, a lot of highways with speedlimits on some highways 120, others 130 and some 100 km per hour. In other cases we have had troubles with Polish Hooligans of Hooligan firms of Legia Warsaw (Teddy Boys'95, Turyści'97; are allied with and friends with the Hooligans of Ado Den Haag. Hate the 'Superjews' of Ajax Amsterdam), Lech Poznań (Brygada Banici, Young Freaks '98), Wisła Kraków (Sharks) and Cracovia (Jude Gang).
I can't understand Polish, but saw some scary looking Polish blokes with tattoos, sweat suit, sneakers, sometimes scars in their face, pumped up muscles, kick boxing types. Actually Polish version of band elements within the native Dutch community, Moroccan community, Turkish community and other minorities. These Poles are somewhere inbetween the native Dutch low class thugs (hustlers, hoodlums, Hooligans, vandals, brutes, bullies, pickpockets, highjackers and pimps).
Like Jeanne said in every nation and every culture you have nutcases, idiots, dangerous individuals, annoying freaks, anti-social elements, and next to that pitiful and miserable people. The main danger is when bad Polish elements merge or ccoperate with criminal Dutch and other migrant (Turkish, Moroccan, Kurd) elements in for instance drugs trafficking and dealing, human trafficking and prositution rings, racketeering and conflicts between organised crime organisations. For instance we had bloody civil war like circumstances between Dutch organised crime organisations and the Morco maffia had an internal dispute with the huge of heavy arms (AK47) and a beheading.
Traditionally Serb, Croat and Albanian criminals worked for Dutch (mainly Amsterdam) criminals as rented killers, next to that the Sicilian Mafia and 'Ndràngheta from Calabria have some autonomous criminal position in the Netherlands.
Due to immigration there are strong Turkish, Chinese, Yugoslav, Russian, Albanian and Italian communities in the Netherlands. Criminal outfits such as the Turkish mafia, Triads, Serbian mafia, Russian Mafia, Albanian Mafia, and the 'Ndrangheta are not regarded as a part of the traditional Penose, although they're an active part of the Dutch criminal underworld nonetheless. The reason why Surinamese, Antillean, Moroccan and Ambonese groups are considered to be a part of the Penose is because their criminal groups were formed and based in the Netherlands, whereas the Turkish or Serb gangs are part of a criminal group based in their home country.
Poles thank god have no strong organised crime or smuggling organisations in the Netherlands. But Polish truck drivers, private cars, and individuals form some risk for Dutch travellers on Dutch roads and highways, because Polish truck drivers often drive to long and have to less sleep and Polish citizens often drink before they go driving. I never drink when I have to drive the RTV-Arnhem Ford Transit Broadcast van to a destination. I never drink when I have to drive a car or van. Even when my colleagues drink and have fun, I stick to Coca Cola or Spa Blue (Mineral water). Because I am reasonable for the safety of colleagues, myself and for other people on the roads and highways I drive. I am very strict in that. Every year people die in the Netherlands due to the fact that people who used alcohol or drugs drove cars or vans. Dutch people and Polish people. Irritating fact is that some Poles don't care about and go to Polish parties or Dutch bars or discotheques, or drink in their hostels and then later drive to other destinations and cause accidents. They don't drink a few beers, but a lot of bottles or tins, and next to that wine, whiskey, vodka, genever, rum, liquers and other booze.
Another problem is that there are often problems between groups of Poles and thus fights between Poles. Duch neighbours can't understand the Poles and don't know what is going on. These Poles are often rough working class or primitive peasant looking types. Probably from Katowice -desolate industrial zones with large polluted cheap neighbourhoods- kind of towns, impoverished rural areas near Gubin at the German border or near Koszalin and Bartoszyce in the north.
The highest unemployment according to some Polish chap on another Polish forum (about 30%) is in the western and northern countryside and in the parts of Mazowieckie woievodship that lay far from the capital. Another Poles says Eastern Poland is poorer in general. But i guess the Podkarpacie region is kinda poor too.
I never had seen my Polish mother so shocked when she told about her experience with these Polish low lifes in the Duch city of Breda. My mother literary said that she didn't knew that such kind of Poles existed. Together with the political situation in Poland this didn't improved her image of Poland.
In my opinion the problems in the Netherlands with the native Duch underclass and with some annoying other migrant groups are larger, but it is a fact that the problems these Polish anti-social individuals and groups cause can be add to the problems these anti-social native Dutch and migrant group elements cause.
The most well known of the Polish organized crime groups in the 1990s were the so-called Pruszkow and the Wolomin gangs.
"The first war against organized crime was won by Poland in the 90’s. This war was aimed at large gangs. The state triumphed and so we no longer have the gangs of Wolomin and Pruszkow,” said Mr Bartłomiej Sienkiewicz at the press conference at the MI.
Head of the MI added that at the moment there were about 200 criminal groups operating across Poland which were under constant police monitoring. “For none of them the situation is likely to return to the one observed in the 90’s” said Minister Bartłomiej Sienkiewicz.
Polish organized crime emerged in the 1990s, when the traditional criminal underworld became better organised and due to rising corruption. Organized crime groups were well known (1992) for operating sophisticated car theft-rings, as well as for their involvement in drug trafficking (the main drug being amphetamine) and weapon trafficking.
Policja rozbiła gang samochodowy z Wołomina. WIDOWISKOWA akcja na autostradzie A2
The Pruszków mafia was an organized criminal group that emerged from the Warsaw suburb of Pruszków in the beginning of the 1990s. The group is known for being involved in large car-theft rings, drug trafficking (including cocaine, heroin, hashish and amphetamine), kidnapping, extortion, weapon trafficking (including AK-47's) and murder. Even though law enforcement dealt a severe blow to the Pruszków mafia, it is alleged that Pruszków-based gangs, with or without notice from their former leaders, have regained their strength in recent years and have begun setting up their car-theft rings and connections with Colombian drug cartels again.
A similar organized crime group known as the Wołomin mafia from Wołomin near Warsaw, with whom they fought bloody turf wars, was crushed by the Polish police in cooperation with the German police in a spectacular raid on a highway between Konin and Poznan in September 2011.
Bo, I wonder if these Polish gangsters are active in the United Kingdom, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Austria, Denmark and Sweden too? In Amsterdam in the early nineties I witnessed a Polish muscle guy who abused Polish workers to renovate Amsterdam buildings in a cheap way. He abused his Polish girlfriend and was a brute. A little bodybuilder. Nasty fellow. I . know this guy because I rented a room from this fellow. Unfortunately!
#BUSINESS NEWSDECEMBER 5, 2014 / 9:12 AM / 3 YEARS AGO
Poland counts the cost of losing millions of its workers
OPOLE, Poland (Reuters) - “I‘m staying here!,” reads a grime-covered slogan on the side of a train in Opole, south-west Poland. It’s a legacy of a local campaign aimed at discouraging young people from moving abroad.
The campaign didn’t work.
After 1.2 million of its citizens migrated in the ten years since Poland joined the European Union, the country is counting the economic and social cost. Though its workers may have eased demographic difficulties in ageing countries like Britain and Germany, Poland now has a population crisis of its own.
Those who left were predominantly the young and economically active. For a while the billions of euros they sent back helped the economy - remittances were worth 2 percent of the country’s GDP in 2009 alone - and enabled it to avoid recession but that money is drying up as they choose to settle permanently abroad.
As a result Poland’s social security system is creaking badly. The country will spend almost a third of its budget in 2015 subsidising pensions - a ratio only likely to increase as the population ages and grandchildren are born abroad.
“To put it very simply, millions of workers emigrating and not paying anything in means no pensions for millions of retirees,” said Janusz Kobeszko, analyst at the Sobieski Institute, a Warsaw-based think tank.
Demographic projections show Poland will lose nearly 3 million people in the next 25 years, partly through migration and partly because women who leave Poland are more likely to have children than those who stay, official data shows.
While Poland’s pensions crisis looms, a more immediate migration-related problem is presenting itself: shortages of labour at home.
In the Opole region, which has lost an estimated 10 to 15 percent of its population due to migration - the highest rate in the country - local businesses cannot find construction workers, carers, security guards, salespeople and cleaners.
One solution would be to welcome immigrants from elsewhere, perhaps from neighbouring Ukraine - so far immigrants make up less than 1 percent of the population.
But despite the difficulty companies have in finding workers, unemployment is still high, at 11.3 percent, because the jobs on offer are low-skilled and low-paid.
And that makes encouraging more immigrants politically risky, says Marta Jaroszewicz, analyst at the Centre for Eastern Studies, a Warsaw-based think tank.
“Politicians don’t want to talk about this, as voters think we can’t afford immigrants,” she said.
Similar patterns and problems are occurring all across ex-Communist countries of eastern Europe which are now EU members. In particular, Bulgaria’s population is projected to shrink by a quarter come 2060. There too, migration is a major factor.
Poland’s dwindling population has brought social problems as well, says Aleksandra Walas, head of a social research centre in Opole, whose office is wedged in between a tax company for emigrants and a counter issuing documents for claiming child benefits abroad.
In 2013, there were over 10,000 of what she describes as “euro-orphans” in the region - children with one or more parent working abroad. That number has risen 8 percent since 2008.
Walas’s team has also identified around 1,000 elderly people in the region who have been abandoned by their emigrating families, something she warns will become more of an issue as the country’s remaining population gets older.
Pawel Landwojtowicz, a family counsellor from Opole who is also a Catholic priest, said working abroad is a factor in around 60 percent of the cases he encounters.
“I’ve seen traditional, multi generational families torn apart by emigration, never to quite recover.”
Halina, a hairdresser from the Opole region, says her family is better off financially because her husband has been a construction worker in Berlin for nearly two decades. But she adds there is no doubt it has put a strain on them.
“I’ve had to be both mother and father to my two kids, and my son used to resent his dad for not being around.”
Poland’s government offers guidance to people thinking about coming back, but former Prime Minister Donald Tusk’s plans to attract large number of emigrants back with tax breaks and soft loans did not materialise. Tusk is now working in Brussels.
Those tracking Polish migration say that the outward flow will not be reversed as long as wages are significantly higher in other parts of Europe.
A recent study showed that only a half of Polish emigrants were planning to return home. Since 2004, some 70,000 Poles have taken up British and German passports.
“Let’s be realistic. They’re not coming back,” said Jacek Suski, head of the labour office in Opole. “Unless it’s to lay their bones to rest.”