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Post by Bonobo on Mar 7, 2008 10:58:04 GMT 1
On the Women`s Day, let me offer you the warmest respect. The offerers` names are Mike and Bonobo. The recipients, in the alphabetical order: Jeanne, Livia, Ola and all anonymous women who visit us but are too shy to let us know about it.  |
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Post by ola on Mar 7, 2008 12:40:43 GMT 1
Now that is very sweet! Thank you!
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Post by jeanne on Mar 8, 2008 3:06:48 GMT 1
Thank you so much! That is my FIRST Women's Day good wish, and I'm delighted it came direct from Poland!
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 9, 2008 22:01:38 GMT 1
Now that is very sweet! Thank you! You are welcome! But..... How do you know the flower is sweet?  Do you know this flower species? Have you ever been a bee? hahahaha |
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 9, 2008 22:17:37 GMT 1
Thank you so much! That is my FIRST Women's Day good wish, and I'm delighted it came direct from Poland! Oh la la! Are those American men really so forgetful?? Or neglectful? |
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Post by ola on Mar 10, 2008 0:14:55 GMT 1
The white variety of that flower grows wild where I live - and if I remember rightly smells slightly of honey...which is sweet.
However, when I said sweet I was referring to your sending us a flower - to the action - which was very nice.
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Post by jeanne on Mar 10, 2008 11:28:06 GMT 1
Thank you so much! That is my FIRST Women's Day good wish, and I'm delighted it came direct from Poland! Oh la la! Are those American men really so forgetful?? Or neglectful? They are neither forgetful or neglectful (most of the time), it's just that we do not celebrate Women's Day here! |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 10, 2008 15:09:57 GMT 1
To all,
We have women's day, each day, here in the U.S.A. We, the men, love all women, some more than others.
Michael Dabrowski
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 10, 2008 19:04:40 GMT 1
To all, We have women's day, each day, here in the U.S.A. We, the men, love all women, some more than others. Michael Dabrowski Very well said, indeed. |
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 8, 2009 13:12:59 GMT 1
To all women in this forum - wives, lovers, teachers and postresses, Happy Women`s Day! from unforgetful, gentlemanly, caring Polish men:   |
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Post by gigi on Mar 8, 2009 17:02:37 GMT 1
To all women in this forum - wives, lovers, teachers and postresses, Happy Women`s Day! from unforgetful, gentlemanly, caring Polish men: Dziękuję Bonobo!  I hope that your wife enjoys her lovely day as well!  |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 8, 2009 18:00:46 GMT 1
Here in the U.S.A. it is always Women's Day, more so in my home.
I love all women, some more than others. We could not, and do not, want to live without them.
Mike
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Post by jeanne on Mar 8, 2009 19:43:30 GMT 1
To all women in this forum - wives, lovers, teachers and postresses, Happy Women`s Day! from unforgetful, gentlemanly, caring Polish men: Thank you, Bonobo! The wish is greatly appreciated!  |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 9, 2009 19:45:49 GMT 1
What am I chopped liver?
Mike
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Post by jeanne on Mar 12, 2009 1:30:46 GMT 1
What am I chopped liver? Mike Did you send us a wish?...and by the way, what's wrong with chopped liver? I like it.... ;D |
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 3, 2009 18:26:07 GMT 1
Women more respected in office than home
thenews.pl
17.06.2009
Working women in Poland are more respected than house wives, but they have less job opportunities and lower payments than men, shows a survey conducted by CBOS.
Life in Poland is easier for men than women, think 39 percent of female Poles, but it is still better than it was in 1980s.
Since the transformation, women in Poland are better-groomed (claim 87 percent of respondents) , they spend more time at work (83 percent), are more aware of their necessities (68 percent), females share duties with men more often (58 percent) and are more satisfied with their lives (46 percent).
Two thirds of Polish women claim that Poles show a greater respect for women who have a profession than those who stay at home and take care of the household. However, over a half of the respondents (59 percent) think that it is more difficult for women than for men to find a job, to be promoted to managerial posts (52 percent), to get a pay raise (65 percent) and to develop a career in politics (63 percent).
One of the main achievements of women after 1989 is their involvement in business. Sixty-one percent of respondents think that women have an equal opportunities as men to run their own company.
The survey titled, Women 2009, was conducted between the 2-7 June and covered a sampling of 1,000 women.
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Post by valpomike on Jul 3, 2009 21:29:36 GMT 1
As they should, and must. Women are great, give them a chance to show you.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 3, 2009 20:20:17 GMT 1
Tusk: Find More Women
Renata Grochal
Gazeta Wyborcza
2009-08-25
The prime minister wants women as PO ticket leaders in half of the districts in Sejm elections. The PO's men are shocked. 'I'm not going to cede my place to a woman,' says an important PO politician.
'Donald floated the idea a couple of weeks ago during a powwow with his closest aides. We were in shock. To give half of the top spots in the PO election tickets to women? We started convincing him that we have too few local women leaders. But I guess the case is lost. If Donald comes up with some idea, he usually grows very attached to it,' a high-ranking PO politician tells Gazeta. 'He dismissed our arguments by saying that we'd find the women.'
Members of the party's Executive Committee (where the are two women for 15 men) don't like the prime minister's idea.
'You can hardly make a regional leader out of someone who isn't. This is creating women leaders in an artificial manner. I don't intend to cede my place to a woman only because she is a woman,' a member of the PO's decision-making body tells Gazeta.
Outside Warsaw, the sentiment is the same.
'We can't use social engineering and break strong candidates' careers only because they're men,' says Tadeusz Aziewicz, deputy head of the PO in Pomorskie. 'This would be negative discrimination against men.'
Even Zbigniew Chlebowski, leader of the PO caucus, has his doubts. 'A ticket leader has to be a locomotive, someone who will pull five or six more candidates after them.'
'General elections are two years away. We'll need to create the women leaders somehow,' adds Mr Chlebowski.
Joanna Mucha, a PO deputy from Lublin (won her seat from the fourth place on the ticket), so comments on the opposition of the men in the PO, 'One third of the votes cast on the ticket leader are votes cast on the party. The ticket leader always has their victory guaranteed. The men are afraid that if they run from the lower positions, where the party logo matters less and the candidate's personal record more, they won't make it.'
In the 2007 Sejm elections, out of the 41 electoral districts, only in five women led the PO's tickets: Ewa Kopacz, Julia Pitera, El¿bieta Radziszewska (all are cabinet ministers today), El¿bieta £ukacijewska (in the European elections in June fetched more votes than Marian Krzaklewski, the PO ticket leader), and Halina Rozpondek.
Pawe³ Graœ, the cabinet spokesperson, points out that, also on Mr Tusk's orders, a woman had to be in one of the three top spots in all PO tickets in the last Sejm elections. We checked, and it was not always the case. There were no women in one of the three top spots in Wroc³aw, Gdynia (where Mr Aziewicz ran), or Lublin, among other places.
Members of the Congress of Polish Women, which in June started a debate on boosting women's presence in Polish politics, support Mr Tusk's idea. The Congress's initiators want a 50-percent gender parity for women in election tickets.
'The prime minister's initiative is great because it promotes women, but it won't replace a statutory parity regulation,' says Bo¿ena Wawrzewska, director of the Congress's bureau.
'If Mr Tusk is replaced as party leader by someone like Julia Pitera, who is an opponent of parity, women will soon be driven out of the leading positions,' says Ms Wawrzewska.
As Gazeta has learned, Mr Tusk convinced his colleagues at the same meeting that the PO had to have an answer to the Congress's postulates. Because the prime minister is not in favour of an official, statutorily- guaranteed parity. He would rather that the parties introduced parity themselves.
'I don't want a statute to help me walk straight,' Waldy Dzikowski, the PO deputy leader, explains Mr Tusk. Some of the women in the PO are also against parity. El¿bieta Radziszewska, the government representative for equal treatment, told Gazeta that 'we should rather follow the path of education and promotion, to make sure that women believe in themselves and that men believe in them.'
The Polish public wants more women in politics. In a recent poll for Gazeta, as many as 61 percent of respondents spoke in favour of gender parity in election tickets.
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 29, 2009 22:05:29 GMT 1
Gender pay gap still wide in Poland
thenews.pl
28.10.2009
The difference in pay between men and women for the same work remains significant in Poland, according to a World Economic Forum report.
The index shows how different countries divide their resources and opportunities between their female and male populations. Poland is 50th in the 2009 ranking, down one place compared with last year.
"Women are still where the pay is low, the work is hard and prestige low," said former Polish First Lady Jolanta Kwasniewska.
There are too few women here in high skilled employment, in parliament and the government. The equality gap between women and men in Poland – represented by the overall index score is 30 percent.
Poland's strong point is in educational attainment. The weakest is low participation of women in decision-making structures. According to the Rzeczpospolita daily, women sit on executive boards in only one out 17 big companies.
A forceful call for narrowing the gender gap on the political scene came from the Polish Women's Congress, which met in Warsaw last June. Its participants called for legislative changes that would guarantee 50 percent of places on party election lists for women.
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 19, 2010 22:25:07 GMT 1
Citizen’s initiative on female representation
18.02.2010 07:45
The first reading of the citizens’ project of the parity bill for female representation is to take place in the Polish parliament today.
The idea that political parties should devote half of all places on the electoral lists to the national, European parliaments and local councils to women was conceived during the Polish Women Congress in Warsaw last June.
Women currently make up 20 percent of Polish members of parliament and just eight percent of Polish senators.
The idea of parity is supported, not only by women or feminist activists. Among those who spoke in its favor are Oscar-winning director Andrzej Wajda, the government's economic advisor Michal Boni and the President of the European Parliament Jerzy Buzek. President Lech Kaczynski announced he would sign the bill if it passes through both chambers of parliament.
Proponents of the initiative collected one hundred fifty thousand signatures in support.
Opponents of the bill, including the government's plenipotentiary for equal status, claim that imposing gender quota in such an artificial way is offensive to women and ineffective. Others say that women should not be given power they are not ready to handle yet. (di/mmj)
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* Maciej Skiba 18.02.2010 10:05 What a stupid idea. No male or female should have a reserved number of seats because of their gender. If 100% of politicians who are elected are women then so be it, if 100% of politicians who are elected are men then so be it also. It should be based on whose the best for the job, not what sex one is. I'm a great supporter of women's rights but the feminists, Wajda, Boni, and Buzek fumbled on this one. Women should be encouraged to enter politics but doing it artificially like this is a disgrace. These types of laws really get under my skin. Maciej Skiba
* Maciej Skiba 18.02.2010 10:23 Are we seriously going to tell our electorate, well we know you want to vote for this politician but since he's male you can't. Or tell them we know he's more experienced or knowledgeable but you can't vote for him. Or flip that around, seeing as 50% seats must be male and say you can't vote for this women even though she's more experience and knowledgeable but she's a women.
Unless the law states at least 50% must be women doesn't mean that more than 50% can't be. Well in that case thats extremely unfair to men. Who the f* is the government to pass a law telling citizens that they must vote for a specific gender. Maciej Skiba
* Maciej Skiba 18.02.2010 10:25 If this law passes I'm renouncing my citizenship. Maciej Skiba
* Maciej Skiba 18.02.2010 10:31 While were at it lets pass a law that a certain % must be Christian, Jewish, Muslim or let's go by ethnicity a certain % must be Polish, German, Russian, Ukrainian, Viet or what have you. Maciej Skiba
* Steve 18.02.2010 11:04 The main problem will be those ignorant idiots who think that being on the electoral list means that the women will be elected. The choice of men remains, in case you didn't notice. Steve
* Karmenu of Malta 18.02.2010 12:53 Being on the electoral list or not should depend on the candidate's capabilities and honesty and his or her manifest disposition to serve. Deciding beforehand how many men and women there should be is sexist to say the least and it would be absurd and damaging to the nation.
There are women who are well capable of serving the country: let them come forward and may they be placed on the candidate's list. However, it is not their sex which makes them so. Karmenu of Malta
* Maciej Skiba 18.02.2010 22:43 You're missing the bigger picture here Steve, it's not about who gets elected if its man or women, its that the selection process for candidates is based on gender. Plus your naive to think that men won't be denied to run in order to make it possible to meet that 50% quota. For example if only 50 women can be found willing to run in an election, you can have no more than 50 men vying for the spot in order to keep that 50/50. So if 100 men wanted to run, you just disqualified 50 because there men. I think you're the ignorant one. Maciej Skiba
* Karolina N. 19.02.2010 20:21 I am a 26 y o Polish woman and I am all for the electoral gender parity. As professor Fuszara said yesterday currently women on parties' electoral rolls, if featured at all, get places at the very end of the lists of candidates.
The people who get to become MPs are the ones at the top of the list and they are usually voted on. At the same time in the free election tv commercials parties promote mainly men (90% of those shown).
And frankly, the MP candidates at the top of the lists aren't really the best educated, best prepared for their roles as MPs ones.
They are the more recognized, louder ones and the ones which parties deem more likely to succeed.
And as in advertising, where men are usually chosen for ads of cars, as they are associated with knowledge about cars (although eg. it is men who cause more accidents), in politics men are chosen to promote parties as traditionally they are associated with politics and playing important roles in goverment. Karolina N.
* Karolina N. 19.02.2010 20:27 Introducing more women into politics seems very much needed as the laws of importance for them seem at the end of priority lists for the current MPs. Help for professional women with children (not the infamous "becikowe"... but rather eg. more creches), changing the labour law so the employers are not discouraged from hiring young women, encouraging girls to enter technical degree programmes, same pension eligibility age for genders etc... Karolina N.
* Karolina N. 19.02.2010 20:38 Finally to be a good politician, you have to know the group you represent well. The ones promoted at the moment are a disappointment, to me at least. All they do is squabble endlessly between each other and linger with passing painful/needed bills for fear of losing voters' support. Frankly I'm all for letting some fresh air into Polish politics.
PS. Wanna see Maciej Skiba renouncing his citizenship 
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 8, 2010 12:29:32 GMT 1
To all women in this forum - wives, lovers, teachers and postresses, Happy Women`s Day! from unforgetful, gentlemanly, caring Polish men: Thank you, Bonobo! The wish is greatly appreciated! We have lived to see another return of the Day. To all women, warmest wishes and greetings. In our school women got flowers, cakes and there was a show with singing , cabaret etc.  |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 8, 2010 18:56:29 GMT 1
To all the great women in this group, and around the world, HAVE A GREAT AND HAPPY WOMENS DAY.
Remember, all ladies are women, but not all women are ladies.
When is Men's day?
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Post by coco on Mar 8, 2010 19:47:10 GMT 1
To all the great women in this group, and around the world, HAVE A GREAT AND HAPPY WOMENS DAY. Remember, all ladies are women, but not all women are ladies. When is Men's day? Don't forget Father's Day! That is only day for men. Sorry Men! |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 8, 2010 22:16:28 GMT 1
So than women have two, Women's Day, and Mother's Day. But you must be a parent to either have Mother's or Father's Day.
Women's day, you can be unmarried.
What about the Men, what is our day?
Mike
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Post by jeanne on Mar 10, 2010 0:33:07 GMT 1
We have lived to see another return of the Day. To all women, warmest wishes and greetings. In our school women got flowers, cakes and there was a show with singing , cabaret etc. Once again, thanks, Bonobo!!! Since we don't celebrate Women's Day here in the U.S., yours is the only wish I received! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 10, 2010 0:36:05 GMT 1
I sent one out to all the great women of this group, did you miss it? And, you are one of the great women of this group, one of the greatest.
Mike
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Post by coco on Mar 10, 2010 1:18:15 GMT 1
I sent one out to all the great women of this group, did you miss it? And, you are one of the great women of this group, one of the greatest. Mike I did get one from you. Thanks! Take care. |
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Post by jeanne on Mar 10, 2010 21:29:33 GMT 1
I sent one out to all the great women of this group, did you miss it? And, you are one of the great women of this group, one of the greatest. Mike Oops, sorry, Mike, I did miss it, but see it now. Thanks to you, too! |
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Post by justjohn on Apr 5, 2010 16:23:41 GMT 1
The white variety of that flower grows wild where I live - and if I remember rightly smells slightly of honey...which is sweet. However, when I said sweet I was referring to your sending us a flower - to the action - which was very nice. Morning Glory grows wild in New England also. My wife has the cultivated variety planted around our home. It is very fragrant. |
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Post by valpomike on Apr 5, 2010 16:46:34 GMT 1
Many kinds of flowers are in bloom in my yard. Looks like winter could be gone, I hope.
Mike
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