Drunk Driving - Polish Hobby?

[Bonobo]

Mar 26, 2009 22:04:26 GMT 1 gigi said:

Mar 26, 2009 21:51:07 GMT 1 Bonobo said:

www.tvn24.pl/-1,1592784,0,1,12_latek-wiozl-pijanego-ojca,wiadomosc.html

The police stopped a jeep driven by a 12 year old boy. His father was too drunk to drive so he ordered his son to do it.

Ah...further support for Bonobo's idea that not everyone should be allowed to procreate.

Not my idea. Originated by Stanisław Lem in Return from Stars.
I only propagate it. ;D ;D

[Bonobo]

Poland sees drunken cyclists as criminals

WARSAW, Poland, April 7 (UPI) -- The Polish Constitutional Court has ruled drunken bicyclists could be punished the same way as drunken motorists and not as intoxicated pedestrians.

Intoxicated car and motorbike drivers are sanctioned under a penal code that deals with criminal offenders and, as of now, so will drunken cyclists in Poland will be treated likewise, the Polish news.pl Web site said Tuesday.

For driving a bicycle, drunken Poles will face a fine and up to two years in jail, just as drunken motorists do, depending on their ability to "manage movement on land, in water or in air."

Drunken pedestrians are sanctioned under offensive statutes and face temporary police detention and fines.

The Constitutional Court was acting on a move submitted by western Poland's regional court in the Lubusz region.


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During Easter weeken the police stopped 1444 drunk drivers in Poland. E.g., a cotally stoned couple were driving their 3 children when their car had an accident.
www.tvn24.pl/-1,1595348,0,1,pijane-swieta-na-drogach,wiadomosc.html

[Bonobo]

Mar 26, 2009 21:51:07 GMT 1 Bonobo said:

www.tvn24.pl/-1,1592784,0,1,12_latek-wiozl-pijanego-ojca,wiadomosc.html

The police stopped a jeep driven by a 12 year old boy. His father was too drunk to drive so he ordered his son to do it.

Another similar case, only the boy is older - 13.
www.tvn24.pl/-1,1595384,0,1,13_latek-wiozl-autem-pijanego-ojca,wiadomosc.html

[Bonobo]

A drunk 20 yo driver killed 3 teenagers walking along the road.
www.tvn24.pl/-1,1597408,0,1,troje-nie-zyje--kierowca-chcial-uciec,wiadomosc.html





The fourth victim, 16 yo girl, died at hospital too.

Poland crashes kill 65, hurt 801 in 3 days

WARSAW, Poland, June 15 (UPI) -- Polish police blamed reckless driving, often under the influence of alcohol, for 612 road accidents that killed 65 people and injured 801 during a long weekend.

Mariusz Sokolowski, inspector at the national police headquarters, told Polish Radio Monday road patrols intercepted 2,683 people driving under the influence of alcohol, a 30 percent increase in the number of intoxicated drivers during regular road checks.

Sokolowski condemned drivers for aggressive driving without respect for their own safety and that of others, contributing to the increased number of accidents and casualties.

[Bonobo]

A funny incident. A well-known actor, Tomasz Stockinger, who participated in anti drunk-driving campaign, caused a drunk accident yesterday. What is worse, he ran away from the site but was stopped by the police. He had 2.3 in his blood.

Stop and live! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Bonobo]

Harsher punishment for drunk drivers
08.01.2010 13:38

Parliament has passed a new, more restrictive law on drunk driving in Poland.

According to the new regulations, an intoxicated driver who causes a fatal accident may lose their driving licence for ever. Those who are caught driving under the influence of alcohol more than once will be sentenced from three months to five years in prison.

MPs also decided to establish a fund for the victims of car accidents. The victims will be able to get professional psychological, social and legal aid.


Comments

* Pioro 08.01.2010 16:06 Its about time! Although I think the legal drink limit is ridiculously low. It equates to one 25cl beer for a grown male. There are a lot of terrible drivers (not just drunk ones) in Poland, but it is unfair that the responsible ones should suffer and not be even able to have a glass of wine with dinner because some dumb chlop thinks 50cl of wodka is just 'warming up'. Pioro
* Not Rokita 08.01.2010 17:40 1st offense should be a six month ban Not Rokita
* Anna 08.01.2010 19:26 I need to ask Alex and Karl for their opinion, should people drink and blog? Anna
* Alex 08.01.2010 23:01 Anna, you can't stop real Poles from drinking. Period! Alex
* Jan 09.01.2010 01:15 Life-time ban on driving after being caught first time drinking and driving. They who do so should also be charge with an homicide attempt. No mercy on these people Jan
* Ker 09.01.2010 08:19 I agree with Jan. Anyone who chooses to gamble with other people's lives should be permanently banned from driving at their first offense. I also think imposing massive fines, hitting them with huge financial punishments, might also be useful as a deterrent. And the minimum jail sentence for a second offense should be raised. Three month is a disgraceful punishment for repeatedly trying to kill innocent people. Ker
* Leszek 10.01.2010 00:05 Many years ago, I read about a driver who had an epileptic fit while driving. He killed someone and was sentenced to several years in gaol. Initially, I was shocked at this but, when the magistrate pointed out that the driver knew he was epileptic and refused to take his medication, I felt that he got what he deserved.

In the same way, a driver who has chosen to drink should be liable to the heaviest penalties.

Research shows that, for minor offences, losing the right to drive is a greater deterrent than financial penalties. They should be hit pretty hard the first time and hit over the fence the second. Leszek
* stevew 11.01.2010 11:03 good this must stop in poland, i hope insurance companies treble convicted drink drivers insurance premiums as well stevew

[valpomike]

No rule will ever be to hard on drunk drivers. We must keep them off the streets, and in bars, or behind them.

Mike

[Bonobo]

Easter roads safer, but drunks still at large
06.04.2010 00:01

Twenty seven people died on the roads over the Easter period in Poland.

Police recorded 230 accidents with 394 injured over the three days of the Easter break. “That‘s about 25 percent less than this time last year,” says police spokesman Robert Horosz.

The downside was that 1,800 drivers were caught drunk at the wheel, despite a high-profile police presence over the long weekend. The maximum penalty for driving under the influence of alcohol in Poland is up to two years in prison.

www.thenews.pl/national/artykul128849_easter-roads-safer--but-drunks-still-at-large.html




Comments

* Skoy 06.04.2010 09:16 It's time people learn the meaning of the word 'responsability' in my opinion... Skoy
* stevew 06.04.2010 09:27 when we see on TVN fakty a guy stopped for speeding and asked why he was doing 130 km/h in warszawa and his arrogant sneering reply to the police officer was "because i like it " and the hordes of idiots screaming around Warszawa's roads on motorbikes doing wheelies along al jerozolimskie from rondo de gaulle, we can see the police have lost total control. Time speed cameras were installed on all lights in warszaw and one all main roads in and out, and people speeding excessively have their cars/bikes confiscated along with their licenses and the worst offenders sent to prison along with the drink drivers. An accident opposite my house over Easter caused by excessive speed and shooting through a red light at a major crossroads ended up with two cars on fire, people in hospital, 3 other cars written off just because one idiot couldnt drive properly. The shame of this is they always hurt and kill innocent people whilst acting out their silly sad masturbatory fantasies, about time the police clamped down severely and kept the clamp on, random breath tests on the way to work the full works remove 30% of Polish blokes licenses , the insurance companies to double their premiums and we might have some calmness on the road stevew
* Steve 06.04.2010 11:16 Driving on Monday afternoon into Warsaw, leaving after supper in the night, I was amazed top find most people driving at around legal speeds and with no real sign of intoxication. The only sign of the police on the Krakow/Katowice main arterial road was a single police car driving at 40 kph and causing confusion for drivers trying to funnel past it. (I think he/she didn't know where to turn off: not the British police motorway habit of driving slow simply to cause chaos.) Steve
* John 06.04.2010 12:08 In the summer of 2006, we drove through Poland...Never again, thank you! John
* Skoy 06.04.2010 13:01 stevew, don't you think that will lead to those people driving around without license or insurance? Skoy
* stevew 06.04.2010 17:24 they might try , idiots will always be idiots doesnt mean we should allow the rest of society to join the idiot party when they fancy it and endanger peoples lives. stevew
* Luke Elliot 06.04.2010 17:37 Skoy, you might know the meaning but you do not yet know how to spell the word. For the record, r-e-s-p-o-n-s-i-b-i-l-i-t-y. Luke Elliot
* Skoy 06.04.2010 23:39 My mistake! But you get my point ;

[Bonobo]

An interesting opinion of nathanael from Jaga`s forum:

Gazeta Polska , today, informed that a young man attempted to hit a traffic police officer without stopping. The officer, in the style of the wild West, somersaulted in the air, pulled a gun and shot the man in the chest. When a policemen is right, it is proper to acknowledge that. Luckily, the bullet missed the heart of this youngster. This way the policeman will have a more peaceful life, without any second thoughts about the rightness or wrongness of his action. Young people in Poland are being educated "bezstresowo", meaning that they can do what they want without the "stress" of consequences. But I am actually writing about something else. There are too many drunks on Polish streets, and too much stupidity associated with drinking. In America, the situation is different because the ratio alcohol-beer is different. An American or a Canadian needs to drink 12 cans of Budweiser to notice that he or she loses control, of mind and of senses ... and then they go to sleep in the security of their own homes! All this happens over a period of several hours! A Pole, for reasons difficult to understand, drinks two cans of beer and he is drunk in 15 minutes! There was a time when I attributed this "difference" to the communists, who sold sharp beer to keep the people in a state of dizziness, subjugation, and impotence. But today I no longer understand it. Why, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, Poland does not introduce the American way of drinking beer? Beer, if one has to have this habit of drinking, ought not to get a person drunk right away, but slowly, over a period of two, three hours, to make a person relax, for example, at home, after a hard work. In the meantime, in Poland, the beer is so strong, that much before the person gets home, he or she is already drunk on the street, tired ... exhausted! It is not difficult to see the tragedy here if one considers that these people, in the first 15 minutes are on the road, on their way home, endangering the lives of others! I hope that some person in the Polish government reads this post, draws the right conclusions, and introduces the vital changes necessary!

[Bonobo]

This is a real disaster. Potential murderers at large, thousands of them, all over Poland.

My proposal: drunk driving=6 months of absolute imprisonment.




Drunk driving offences up
04.05.2010 00:24

Over 2,000 drivers were caught drunk behind the wheel over the long May weekend in Poland, with 35 killed and 500 injured.

Police say the casualty rate could grow further as many were leaving it till Tuesday to make the journey home after visiting friends and family over the May1 to May 3 weekend.

The number caught drunk driving increased significantly compared to last year, said press spokeswoman at Police HQ in Warsaw, Grazyna Puchalska.

“Many [caught] were not those who got behind the wheel immediately after drinking, but those who drank the evening before,” she said, reminding the alcohol stays in the body and can be detected hours after drinking. (pg)

Source: PAP

Comments

* Tom, London 04.05.2010 00:51 In just one weekend! THat is a national disgrace. Poland really needs to up its educational campaigns. Tom, London
* Jasiek 04.05.2010 03:44 It would be too costly if you are to deter drunk drivings only by educational campaigns. The British society is extremely costly because they have created too many social institutions and organisations, whose fund raisings can never be sustainable I bet. It is surely a sort of socialism. Educational public advertisements and activities are important indeed, but it is not the ideal solution to rely on.

Raise the amounts of compensaion for damages caused by drunk driving in the context of punitiveness. This would become another deterrent. No one wants to ruin his/her life by the financial obligation. Jasiek
* Wasteman 04.05.2010 07:39 First raise the penalty to 10,000 PLN for the first offense, no suspended sentences etc. Caught, booked, jail, pay or stay. Second offense, confiscate the auto, 1 year in jail work program cleaning streets etc. On and on Wasteman
* Skoy 04.05.2010 08:16 Hope they only killed themselves, and not 'innocent' people. Although I can imagine plenty family fathers driving after several drinks too many. A disgrace! Skoy
* willy 04.05.2010 08:20 A disgrace it is. Drunk driving rates are going DOWN in other EU countries but UP in Poland - something is clearly wrong. willy
* steve procter 04.05.2010 09:46 Re: Jasiek - Poland has the highest road accidents/death rate in the EU. Only Turkey has a worse record in the 'European' zone but Greece is not far behind Poland. Britain is bottom of the league. I'm married to a Polish national and live in Poland and also in Greece and I can compare from a personal experience too that driving in Poland (and to some extent, Greece) can be a tense affair, especially during holiday periods. In my experience SPEED and dangerous OVERTAKING are the biggest problems to combat. steve procter
* Pioro 04.05.2010 11:20 Steve I won't overly defend the driving skills of my compatriots, but one major cause to Poland's high statistic is the fact that we are basically still a single-lane country. If and when this problem will be resolved, the statistics will most likely fall in line with the EU average. Pioro
* Tim 04.05.2010 13:10 For those commenting on how disgraceful this is, it is worth remembering that the allowable limit in the UK for alcohol is 4 times higher than that in Poland. You can have 3 pints of beer in England and drive home and many people do. Half a pint is enough to send you over the limit here. Drink driving offenses between the two countries are not comparable. Still, many Polish drivers in Poland are rubbish and this is the main problem. The state of Polish roads can no longer be used as an excuse because many drivers are useless on the motorways as well. Tim
* Wasteman 04.05.2010 14:19 "Half a pint is enough to send you over the limit here." Good point Tim. It should be even lower in Poland given what everyone says above: single roads, poor drivers etc Wasteman
* John 04.05.2010 16:14 This is simply sick and a national disgrace how people in this country drive. Something is not OK in the society. John



www.thenews.pl/national/artykul130803_drunk-driving-offences-up.html

[valpomike]

And second time, don't let them drive for life.

Mike

[Bonobo]

Drunk driving isn`t only Polish hobby. Foreign drivers also drink and drive here.
Today, for the second time recently, a drunk Latvian truck driver caused a tragic accident in which 3 Poles died and their car was completely crushed.

[Bonobo]

Not only Polish hobby. American basketball player from a Polish club was detained after she breathed out 1.5 mille alcohol content.

[tufta]

Oct 23, 2010 21:39:38 GMT 1 Bonobo said:

Not only Polish hobby. American basketball player from a Polish club was detained after she breathed out 1.5 mille alcohol content.

She must have stayed in Poland for too long!

[valpomike]

Could she be black, could that be the reason?

[Bonobo]

Oct 26, 2010 5:30:04 GMT 1 valpomike said:

Could she be black, could that be the reason?

The reason for what?

[valpomike]

Driving well black, in Poland.

Mike

[Bonobo]

A drunk man was stopped on the road. Surprised officers saw a goat in his small car. The man said he always takes it with him.

[valpomike]

She was his lady.

Mike

[Bonobo]

Should I start a new thread - Drunk Kayaking?

The Ministry of Health wants to introduce harsh penalties for kayaking or riding a pedalo under the influence of alcohol, with fines expected to reach 2,500 zloty (630 euro).

“We often undertake interventions on the water, but there is no law that would allow us to work effectively,” Anna Fic from the Olsztyn Police HQ told TVN24 news.

However, an amendment to Poland’s sobriety bill is expected to be passed before the end of the year.

The bill will also introduce fines for sailing while under the influence (0.02 – 0.05 percent of alcohol in the bloodstream), with penalties ranging from 20 to 5,000 zloty. If over 0.05 percent of alcohol is found, then a minimum fine of 2,500 zloty is to be incurred.

Police motorboats are to be equipped with breathalisers, and are to control water users for alcohol. Thus far, the only legislation in force to penalise drunk ‘seadogs’ are for speedboat skippers.

[Bonobo]

Police issue Easter drunk driving warning
06.04.2012 09:37
Police are warning that they will show little mercy to drunk driving over the Easter holiday in another attempt to lower the amount of deaths of Poland's roads.



“As always, we call for caution and prudence. According to meteorological forecasts, very changeable weather will occur over the holiday. Take this into account and alter speed to road conditions so that you arrive safely,” says Police HQ spokesman Karol Jakubowski.

He added that there will be no leniency for those who choose to drive under the influence of alcohol. Drivers caught drunk could face a three year ban or even two years in prison.

A European Commission report last week found that Poland has the worst record on road fatalities in the EU.

Over the last ten years, the number of road fatalities within the EU has fallen by 43 percent, as a result of which approximately 125,000 lives have been saved.

However, in Poland the number of fatalities has only fallen by 29 percent.

Thirty five people died on the roads during the Easter holidays last year.

[Bonobo]

A political scandal turned into tragedy.

Former deputy Justice Minister found dead
31.10.2015 19:29
A former deputy Justice Minister Monika Zbrojewska, who was dismissed from her position for drunk driving, has been found dead. Monika Zbrojewska was 43. Zbrojewska was relieved of her post by PM Ewa Kopacz on 23 November after being caught driving a car under the influence.
The circumstances which led to the death were not immediately known.



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Poland's deputy justice minister sacked for drink driving
24.10.2015 12:05
Prime Minister Ewa Kopacz has dismissed Monika Zbrojewska from the post of deputy minister of justice after the latter was caught drink driving on Friday afternoon.
Zbrojewska was apprehended in Łódż, central Poland, and a breathalyzer confirmed that she was over the limit.
According to police in the city, she was initially approached by another driver after he noticed that she was performing strange manoeuvres. The man immediately noticed the odour of alcohol and called the police, who say that the woman behaved aggressively towards officers.
Zbrojewska is due to be charged on Tuesday, and she could face two years in prison

[Bonobo]

A 31-year-old Polish man was arrested in the eastern city of Lublin after trying to take his driving test while under the influence of alcohol.

The incident occurred on Wednesday evening at the city's Provincial Road Traffic Centre.

The examiner sensed that her candidate was not fit to drive before he tried to navigate his way through the city.

She notified the police shortly after 6:00 pm and officers duly arrived at the scene.

A breath test confirmed that the man was heavily intoxicated.

“The would-be driver could now face consequences of his irresponsible behavior,” local police noted in a statement.

“He could serve a prison sentence of up to two years for driving under the influence,” the force confirmed.

[pjotr]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118604/Drunken-Polish-truck-driver-performed-u-turn-motorway-dumped-girlfriend.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4829456/Polish-born-drink-driver-31-court-M1-smash.html



POLISH TRUCKER FAR OVER ALCOHOL LIMIT IN ACCIDENT THAT KILLED DUTCH FAMILY

By Janene Pieters on September 27, 2017 - 14:10



The Polish truck driver that caused an accident on a German highway A67 in which three Dutch people were killed on Sunday, was under the influence of alcohol at the time. According to the German police, the 34-year-old Polish man had 3.09 promille alcohol in his blood. In both Germany and the Netherlands, the limit is 0.5 promille, NOS reports.

According to NOS, the alcohol level in the man's blood indicates that he had drunk over 20 glasses of alcohol. Emergency workers could smell the alcohol on the man and beer cans were found in his truck.



The truck was drving the wrong way on the highway. He collided head on with a family from Sittard and also hit another car. The Dutch father, mother and daughter died at the scene. Four people in another car that was also hit, sustained minor injuries. The trucker himself was seriously hurt.

The initial assumption was that the truck driver turned his truck around on the highway to avoid a traffc jam. The authorities now believe differently, due to statements from witnesses. The police believe that the man stopped his truck on an onramp to the highway, causing a traffic jam. A driver of a waiting car got out to see what was going on. The trucker then got onto the highway, driving in the wrong direction. The accident happened a short time later.

[Bonobo]

Sept 28, 2017 2:15:10 GMT 1 pjotr said:

POLISH TRUCKER FAR OVER ALCOHOL LIMIT IN ACCIDENT THAT KILLED DUTCH FAMILY

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Pete, I am so terribly sorry that your compatriots died because of one drunk moron. Let him rot in prison but it won`t bring back to life those innocent people.

The statistics say that every year the number of drunk drivers in Poland decreases, but such guys seem to be doing everything to turn the tide.

[graczyk85]

Yeah stats are just one fact but ask that person who lose their loved one’s due to some stupid teenaged drunk driver. My uncle has worked with a DUI attorney Los Angeles and have told me numerous times how it can destroy lives. I am happy that people here at least are understanding it.