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Post by Bonobo on Sept 9, 2008 15:28:14 GMT 1
The big burning will take place tomorrow on Tuesday. Everybody may come. Smoking, yes. Inhaling, no. Hahahahaha! ;D Hey bud, let's party!!! ;D ;D ;D Okay, now that I have that classic line out of my system I can move on to the serious stuff. I saw some info about the effort to legalize marijuana in Poland: According to Polish Radio, a campaign to loosen the marijuana laws is underway in Poland. A petition to the Ministry of Justice requesting the legalization of marijuana for personal use has already been signed by hundreds of people, including drug rehab specialists and members of Monar, a nonprofit group that works with addicts, the HIV/AIDS positive, and the homeless. Now, would-be legalizers are trying a new tack: direct contact with members of parliament (MPs). "Cannabis canvassers" recruited via the Internet have been paying visits to politicians in an effort to win them over, and it seems to be working. The canvassers have already collected the signatures of five MPs, including former health minister Marek Balicki. Legalization of personal possession (or decriminalization) would be a step forward for Poland. Under current law, possession of even small amounts of marijuana is a serious criminal offense. A step forward?? Many people think the opposite, including the church hierarchy. They will never close an eye. The supporters of marijuana among current politicians are mainly from the leftist, post communist party, like mentioned former health minister Balicki. The new law about allowing marijuana won`t be passed in the current parliament and next ones. Or it will after decades..... What is the law in the USA? |
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Post by gigi on Sept 9, 2008 17:20:22 GMT 1
The supporters of marijuana among current politicians are mainly from the leftist, post communist party, like mentioned former health minister Balicki. The new law about allowing marijuana won`t be passed in the current parliament and next ones. Or it will after decades..... What is the law in the USA? The law varies by state. Some (I think it is 12) have decriminalized marijuana use for medical purposes. Here is a link that shows the specifics for each state: www.usmarijuanalaws.com/It is an interesting site. I didn't know we have tax stamps for marijuana. It seems bizarre to me. Anyone in possession of marijuana or other illegal drugs are required by law to purchase and affix state-issued stamps onto his or her contraband. The cost of the tax is normally determined by the quantity of contraband the person is registering. The funny thing about these tax stamps even though the sale and possession of marijuana is illegal, drug tax stamp laws primarily assess financial penalties on the defendant for noncompliance and in some cases criminal charges can also be imposed.
Nearly half of all US states currently have marijuana tax stamp laws on the books, but few people few citizens observe them or even know they exist. People that do know of these obscure tax laws fear that by complying with them it will incriminate them by acknowledging their illegal use of drugs. Because use of the drug tax stamps are almost nonexistent - states use the current tax stamp laws to impose an additional penalty - tax evasion - upon drug offenders after they are arrested and criminally charged with a drug violation.Huh???  Check out the drug tax stamp for the state of Nebraska...  I've never tried the stuff myself, so I don't know what all the "buzz" is about...  |
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 9, 2008 18:09:57 GMT 1
Anyone in possession of marijuana or other illegal drugs are required by law to purchase and affix state-issued stamps onto his or her contraband. The cost of the tax is normally determined by the quantity of contraband the person is registering. The funny thing about these tax stamps even though the sale and possession of marijuana is illegal, drug tax stamp laws primarily assess financial penalties on the defendant for noncompliance and in some cases criminal charges can also be imposed.
Nearly half of all US states currently have marijuana tax stamp laws on the books, but few people few citizens observe them or even know they exist. People that do know of these obscure tax laws fear that by complying with them it will incriminate them by acknowledging their illegal use of drugs. Because use of the drug tax stamps are almost nonexistent - states use the current tax stamp laws to impose an additional penalty - tax evasion - upon drug offenders after they are arrested and criminally charged with a drug violation. This is really incredible. Utter paranoia. It reminds me of communist times: possessing dollars, buying them and selling was illegal in Poland, however, there was a chain of Pewex stores where you could buy goods unavailable in normal stores for hard currency, mostly dollars. |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 9, 2008 18:46:48 GMT 1
intersting. 12 states? i wonder which ones they are. i am pretty sure all of west coast (CA, OR, WA) Alaska and Wisconsin are pretty easy going about this. I know IN has made it a ticketable offence now; i think mainly to ease up the courts a bit. The rest seem rather strict. I am not sure if the link is correct 100% because I am pretty sure in KY the penalties for paraphernalia are more stringent then for possession of MJ itself.
MJ use is pretty high in USA though. I am pretty sure that almost everyone in my department, at work, smokes the stuff; they seem to discuss is rather freely anyway.
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Post by gigi on Sept 9, 2008 19:05:11 GMT 1
intersting. 12 states? i wonder which ones they are. Arkansas, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington. I'm guessing you're not a cop then... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 9, 2008 19:57:31 GMT 1
intersting. 12 states? i wonder which ones they are. Arkansas, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington. I'm guessing you're not a cop then... ;D ;D ;D lol, no but a friend of mine used to get his MJ from a local cop.. hmm VT decriminalized it? wow, last time i was there, they got their first drug sniffing dog and were so proud of it.  |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 9, 2008 21:59:00 GMT 1
I know that grass, leads you into heavy stuff, to see the difference. I have been told. I work with many Police Departments, and my buddy is the director of the Drug Task Force, for this area.
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Post by gigi on Sept 9, 2008 22:11:05 GMT 1
I know that grass, leads you into heavy stuff, to see the difference. I have been told. I work with many Police Departments, and my buddy is the director of the Drug Task Force, for this area. I don't really get the appeal of any of it, personally. I wouldn't want to be that "out of it", not to mention the fact that you can never really be sure what you are smoking/snorting/shooting, etc. Not my thing. |
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 9, 2008 22:17:21 GMT 1
not to mention the fact that you can never really be sure what you are smoking/snorting/shooting, etc. Not my thing. Cum on, a little flour didn`t harmed nobody..... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 9, 2008 22:28:20 GMT 1
Who needs drugs, I get high on life.
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Post by gigi on Sept 9, 2008 22:35:13 GMT 1
not to mention the fact that you can never really be sure what you are smoking/snorting/shooting, etc. Not my thing. Cum on, a little flour didn`t harmed nobody..... ;D ;D ;D I saw a guy shoot up right next to me on a street in Frankfurt. He was waaaay out of it. I got as far away from that needle of his as I could. I have never heard the term "flour". Are you speaking from experience? Btw...what's with the new spelling - typo??? ;D |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 10, 2008 4:38:55 GMT 1
When I do work in Gary, Indiana, I see drug sales all over, even in front of the Police. I think they get their part, so they look away.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Sept 10, 2008 16:32:35 GMT 1
What do you think should, or could be done on the drug problems we all share, all over the world?
Mike
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Post by gigi on Sept 28, 2008 23:31:44 GMT 1
I realize that this thread is about legalizing drugs, but it is important to note that there are a lot of people out there who are abusing otc (over-the-counter) drugs as well. In the U.S., cold relief medications that contain pseudoephedrine are restricted since pseudoephedrine can be used to make methamphetamine.
I saw this article on Krakowinfo.com:
Funshop? Not So Funny
A shop with legal drugs has opened in Krakow selling various over-the-counter alleged alternatives to illicit dope. The little store – labeled as a ‘funshop’ by its owners, a UK-based World Wide Supplements Importer – is hidden in the courtyard of a nondescript tenement house at Starowisla streets. It sells both chemicals and herbal concoctions and its customer base consist mostly of the young patrons of Krakow’s numerous night clubs. Legal as it may be, the merchandise can prove both highly addictive and hazardous to health, drug experts warn.
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 28, 2008 23:53:05 GMT 1
I realize that this thread is about legalizing drugs, but it is important to note that there are a lot of people out there who are abusing otc (over-the-counter) drugs as well. In the U.S., cold relief medications that contain pseudoephedrine are restricted since pseudoephedrine can be used to make methamphetamine. I saw this article on Krakowinfo.com: Funshop? Not So Funny A shop with legal drugs has opened in Krakow selling various over-the-counter alleged alternatives to illicit dope. The little store – labeled as a ‘funshop’ by its owners, a UK-based World Wide Supplements Importer – is hidden in the courtyard of a nondescript tenement house at Starowisla streets. It sells both chemicals and herbal concoctions and its customer base consist mostly of the young patrons of Krakow’s numerous night clubs. Legal as it may be, the merchandise can prove both highly addictive and hazardous to health, drug experts warn. Sth new. Strange that it was open in Krakow. Warsaw usually starts such things as it is the hotbed of evil.... |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 29, 2008 1:15:04 GMT 1
Are there no laws against this kind of place? Even if only zoning laws.
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 3, 2008 10:51:06 GMT 1
Are there no laws against this kind of place? Even if only zoning laws. Mike Poles are freedom loving people. That is why various suspicious businesses appear and are tolerated for the sake of economic freedom. |
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Post by valpomike on Oct 3, 2008 16:53:44 GMT 1
A neighborhood group can close them down. It needs some action at once. Be a part of it.
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 3, 2008 20:41:25 GMT 1
A neighborhood group can close them down. It needs some action at once. Be a part of it. Mike I am not going to be part of it. I am a regular Pole and did you already forget what I said about the Polish character? A short test: which aspect of the character puts me off from being a part of ot? |
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Post by valpomike on Oct 4, 2008 2:32:06 GMT 1
If this was the case here, I would march on them with many others, and we would get the job done. You can't leave it for the next guy to do, we must do it our selfs.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 17, 2009 19:47:12 GMT 1
I realize that this thread is about legalizing drugs, but it is important to note that there are a lot of people out there who are abusing otc (over-the-counter) drugs as well. In the U.S., cold relief medications that contain pseudoephedrine are restricted since pseudoephedrine can be used to make methamphetamine. I saw this article on Krakowinfo.com: Funshop? Not So Funny A shop with legal drugs has opened in Krakow selling various over-the-counter alleged alternatives to illicit dope. The little store – labeled as a ‘funshop’ by its owners, a UK-based World Wide Supplements Importer – is hidden in the courtyard of a nondescript tenement house at Starowisla streets. It sells both chemicals and herbal concoctions and its customer base consist mostly of the young patrons of Krakow’s numerous night clubs. Legal as it may be, the merchandise can prove both highly addictive and hazardous to health, drug experts warn.
Polish law to ban recreational drugs?
Polish Radio
05.03.2009
The Polish senate today continues discussion on amendments to the law on drugs and illegal substances, which is to ban the sale of so-called recreational drugs.
The amendment would outlaw the substance benzylpiperazine, which produces effects similar to amphetamine, as well as 17 other compounds, derived from plants native to South and Central America and Asia.
Over the past six months some sixty shops selling recreational drugs have opened in Poland.
The amendment has been supported by the Senate health care commission, however producers say it will not cause a major obstacle to the distribution here of "energy pills" or "party pills" and the like. |
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 26, 2009 22:55:15 GMT 1
Polish youths more keen on sedatives than drugs
Created: 26.03.2009 16:43
Young people from Poland tend to smoke less cigarettes, drink less alcohol and use less drugs, but they take more sedatives and sleep-inducing pills, shows research conducted by the European School Survey Project on Alcohol and Other Drugs (ESPAD) in 35 countries.
According to the latest research, the number of students who smoke cigarettes and use drugs has dropped in the last five years, while the number of those who drink alcohol remained almost the same. The research shows that in 2008 as many as 78 percent of students consumed alcohol and at least 31 percent got drunk. The favourite alcoholic beverage of Polish youths was beer.
Fifteen percent of students confessed to taking psychotropic substances last year, according to the survey, which is about nine percent less than in 2003. The most commonly used drug among adolescents were cannabis and hashish. Over thirty percent of Polish students used them at least once in their life, and over sixteen – last year.
According to the figures, Polish youths are not particularly keen on hard drugs such as heroine, but there is a growing interest in smart drugs, which are still legal in Poland.
The research shows that a serious threat to adolescents’ health is posed by sedatives and sleep-inducing drugs. Up to 18 percent of young people in Poland use them without a doctor’s prescription, while in Europe these stimulants are consumed by only six percent of students.
Janusz Sierosławski from the Institute of Psychiatry and Neurology, who conducted the ESPAD research in Poland, claims that there are two reasons why sedatives and sleep-inducing drugs are so popular among Polish adolescents. Firstly, young people are unaware of the consequences of the overuse of sedatives and sleep-inducing drugs. Secondly, pharmaceutical companies convince people that such pills are harmless and can be a perfect cure for any ailment.www.polskieradio.pl/thenews/humaninterest/artykul105090_polish_youths_more_keen_on_sedatives_than_drugs.html |
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 14, 2010 10:23:16 GMT 1
Poland to liberalize drug law?
12.03.2010 12:17
The government has drafted a new bill on the prevention of drug addiction, which, in effect, might decriminalize possession of small amounts of drugs, for personal use.
“We want to concentrate on prevention and treatment, not punishment,” said Justice Minister Krzysztof Kwiatkowski, commenting on the draft bill. “Punishing a person for possessing just one joint is absurd,” said Kwiatkowski and added that the state should help drug addicts to quit instead of persecuting them.
The liberalization of Poland’s drug law comes after the Czech Republic’s decision to abolish penalties for possessing a small quantity of illicit drugs.
The draft bill is expected to be forwarded to the Parliament in April.
According to the current law, the possession of any amount of cannabis is illegal and can result in a 3-year prison sentence and drug dealing to a 10-year prison sentence.www.thenews.pl/national/artykul127330_poland-to-liberalize-drug-law-.html
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Post by valpomike on Mar 14, 2010 21:45:53 GMT 1
Here is some states, you can get away with just a fine, for small amounts. I am not sure if this is good, or not.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Mar 18, 2010 17:37:47 GMT 1
Now is the time, for the rest of this great group, to tell us what you think on this.
Mike
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Post by jeanne on Mar 18, 2010 21:02:29 GMT 1
Now is the time, for the rest of this great group, to tell us what you think on this. Mike I think "no". |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 25, 2010 23:28:32 GMT 1
Why do you think no?
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 3, 2010 19:36:44 GMT 1
Poland declares war on smart drugs
02.04.2010 02:31
The Polish government is is to introduce new legislation in an attempt to ban easily available, but potentially harmful, smart drugs.
In an attempt to limit the supply of the drugs, Health Minister Ewa Kopacz says a substance suspected of posing a health risk will be withdrawn from the market for 18 months to be analyzed by experts.
Last weekend, a 24-year-old died in a night club in Lodz, central Poland, with smart drugs found in his pocket. The autopsy proved inconclusive as to whether the drug was in anyway responsible for the death, however. Further toxicological tests are underway.
Smart drugs, or cognitive enhancers - also known as nootropics - often contain psychoactive substances which can be bought legally in specialist shops throughout Poland. In Warsaw, alone, there are several smart drug outlets open 24 hours a day.
Minister Kopacz says that it is difficult to protect consumers from possible harm as the drugs change name regularly. This makes drawing up laws prohibiting them difficult.
“One day these substances trade under the name “x” and the next day “z”. It’s is a problem with which Europe and the world has been unable to cope with,” she said.
Under Poland’s 2009 anti-drug law, trade in 17 psychoactive substances was banned in Poland. But many new smart drugs have appeared since.
The legislation will only apply to drugs legally available in shops. But students have taken smart drugs for years, in the belief that it makes them cram better for exams.
Some drugs, such as the popular Adderall, can easily be obtained on the internet, however. It is also increasingly popular for hard-working professionals to take the drugs, as well, which were originally deigned for medical conditions such as neurological disorders such as attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, Alzheimer‘s.www.thenews.pl/national/artykul128706_poland-declares-war-on-smart-drugs-.html
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Post by valpomike on Apr 3, 2010 23:06:01 GMT 1
The Polish people don't need a drug to be smart.
This must be called something other here in the USA.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Aug 24, 2010 19:35:56 GMT 1
People have been using such drugs as tobacco and alcohol for centuries. The use started so long ago that these substances are considered ordinary though everybody knows they are harmful.
Aren`t we excessive hypocrites when it comes to marijuana and other soft drugs, no more harmful than alcohol or tobacco?
Government discusses drug use decriminalisation
The government is meeting today to discuss proposed amendments to Poland’s drug laws, which would allow courts to discontinue drop charges for possession of narcotics for personal use.
Last year the Justice Ministry decided that the strict Polish law on narcotics was too repressive in respect to “certain groups found to be in possessing of drugs”, to whom prosecution could do more harm than good.
The draft proposal by the Justice Ministry did not specify what ‘small amounts of drugs for personal use’ entailed, however. Buying and selling drugs will remain illegal if the bill ever passes through parliament.
At the beginning of the year, the Czech Republic changed its drug laws whereby people found in possession of up to 15 grammes (half an ounce) of marijuana, or growing up to five cannabis plants, no longer risk prison or a criminal record.
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