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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 25, 2011 18:50:39 GMT 1
Rabbi offers opinion on the Pope
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Post by tufta on Jul 25, 2011 19:13:01 GMT 1
This new member is sure anti-jew, when many Jews were Polish, and many were fine people, not like the Germans, who wanted to kill everyone. Why would he think this way? Mike Well, there is freedom of speech, Mike. People have the right to say what they feel. And we have the right to disagree and point to certain historical one-sided distortions or even blatant lies. Bo, there is something very wrong happening. We are becoming a refuge of hatemongers . One hatemonger says "Jews murdered, cooperated, etc..." Another hatemonger says "Germans wanted to kill everyone". |
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 25, 2011 19:32:32 GMT 1
I wouldn`t call it a refuge. Well, that is common in most forums that some members are flaming. We don`t go over the limit, really.
It can be easily stopped by censorship and banning members.
What else do you propose?
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Post by tufta on Jul 25, 2011 20:28:11 GMT 1
Maybe common, I don't know. I know your forum beacause there;s no flaming here. The choice it totally yours. Walking the line of quality versus quantity is tricky, I know.
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 25, 2011 20:40:38 GMT 1
Maybe common, I don't know. I know your forum beacause there;s no flaming here. The choice it totally yours. Walking the line of quality versus quantity is tricky, I know. It is not only quantity. Read the whole thread when you have time and see that other members may share certain feelings which they have hidden so far. Besides, are you sure there was no flaming before?  Forgot a few times you got annoyed? Well, there is always the Ignore button. |
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Post by tufta on Jul 25, 2011 20:53:36 GMT 1
Maybe common, I don't know. I know your forum beacause there;s no flaming here. The choice it totally yours. Walking the line of quality versus quantity is tricky, I know. It is not only quantity. Read the whole thread when you have time and see that other members may share certain feelings which they have hidden so far. Besides, are you sure there was no flaming before? Forgot a few times you got annoyed? Well, there is always the Ignore button. Yes I remember, and I was scolded by the forum-keeper for my reaction and asked not to react. That is why I am not reacting now, just talking with you  As to others 'sharing certain feelings'. Uncletim has nicely and elegantly presented his experience. I had similar, btw. But this is something different to outward hatred presented by two people here. Ignore button is great but totally changes the nature of your forum. As I said - the choice is totally yours. |
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 25, 2011 21:19:01 GMT 1
As I said - the choice is totally yours. Yes, and my choice is patience. I must be getting old. Youth is characterised by hastiness and recklessness. I used to be like that. Now I am senile and every decision of mine takes a lot of time. I can see you are really attracted to this thread. Why don`t you, instead, comment on 20 threads which I already made about Wroc³aw? |
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 25, 2011 21:39:43 GMT 1
I WILL STOP POSTING THE TRUTH ABOUT JEWS
I HATE TO UPSET A FEW OF THESE NAIVE BUT GOOD PEOPLE
TOO BAD JEW MURDERERS DID NOT CRY OVER YOUR RELATIVES IN KATYN AFTER MURDERING THEM
THIS ISTHE END.
IF YOU DO NOT SEE IT NOW YOU NEVER WILL
MAY YOU GET WISDOM SOON-YOU WILL NEED IT WHEN THE JEWS COME AND TAKE OVER AGAIN
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 25, 2011 21:49:52 GMT 1
Ooops, it looks like an obsession of yours. ;D ;D ;D OK, I understand you are whole-heartedly against Jews for simple anti-semitic reasons. But try to use your common sense a little. All cases of Jewish atrocities, true and alleged, that you mentioned, refer to communism. Yes, it is true there were many communist Jews. But apart from them, there were also communists of different nationalities: Poles in Poland, Russians in Russia, Ukrainians in Ukraine etc etc. Communism encompassed all kinds of people who considered themselves international and the fact that some of the leaders or executioners were Jewish, doesn`t really matter. If you base your anti-Jewish phobia solely on that, you are a simple, not serious anti-semite who repeats Nazi slogans about Jewish communists. Check these sites: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communismen.wikipedia.org/wiki/StalinismThe word Jew/Jewish isn`t mentioned there at all. You will probably say they are biased. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The only reference to Jews is here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
Jewish Bolshevism, Judeo-Bolshevism, and known as ¯ydokomuna in Poland, is an antisemitic stereotype[1] based on the claim that Jews have been the driving force behind or are disproportionately involved in the modern Communist movement, or sometimes more specifically Russian Bolshevism.[2]
The expression was the title of a pamphlet, The Jewish Bolshevism, and became current after the 1917 October Revolution in Russia, featuring prominently in the propaganda of the anti-communist "White" forces during the Russian Civil War. It spread worldwide in the 1920s with the publication and circulation of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It made an issue out of the Jewishness of some leading Bolsheviks (most notably Leon Trotsky) during and after the October Revolution. Daniel Pipes says that "primarily through the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Whites spread these charges to an international audience."[3] James Webb wrote that it is rare to find an antisemitic source after 1917 that ..."does not stand in debt to the White Russian analysis of the Revolution."[4]
The label "Judeo-Bolshevism" was used in Nazi Germany to equate Jews with communists, implying that the communist movement served Jewish interests and/or that all Jews were communists.[5] According to Hannah Arendt, it was "the most efficient fiction of Nazi Propaganda".[6] In Poland before World War II, ¯ydokomuna was used in the same way to allege that the Jews were conspiring with the USSR to capture Poland. According to André Gerrits, "The myth of Jewish Communism was one of the most popular and widespread political prejudices in the first half of the 20th century, in Eastern Europe in particular."[7] The allegation still sees use in antisemitic publications and websites today.
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 25, 2011 21:52:46 GMT 1
Ooops, it looks like an obsession of yours. ;D ;D ;D OK, I understand you are whole-heartedly against Jews for simple anti-semitic reasons. But try to use your common sense a little. All cases of Jewish atrocities, true and alleged, that you mentioned, refer to communism. Yes, it is true there were many communist Jews. But apart from them, there were also communists of different nationalities: Poles in Poland, Russians in Russia, Ukrainians in Ukraine etc etc. Communism encompassed all kinds of people who considered themselves international and the fact that some of the leaders or executioners were Jewish, doesn`t really matter. If you base your anti-Jewish phobia solely on that, you are a simple, not serious anti-semite who repeats Nazi slogans about Jewish communists. Check these sites: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communismen.wikipedia.org/wiki/StalinismThe word Jew/Jewish isn`t mentioned there at all. You will probably say they are biased. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The only reference to Jews is here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism
Jewish Bolshevism, Judeo-Bolshevism, and known as ¯ydokomuna in Poland, is an antisemitic stereotype[1] based on the claim that Jews have been the driving force behind or are disproportionately involved in the modern Communist movement, or sometimes more specifically Russian Bolshevism.[2]
The expression was the title of a pamphlet, The Jewish Bolshevism, and became current after the 1917 October Revolution in Russia, featuring prominently in the propaganda of the anti-communist "White" forces during the Russian Civil War. It spread worldwide in the 1920s with the publication and circulation of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It made an issue out of the Jewishness of some leading Bolsheviks (most notably Leon Trotsky) during and after the October Revolution. Daniel Pipes says that "primarily through the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Whites spread these charges to an international audience."[3] James Webb wrote that it is rare to find an antisemitic source after 1917 that ..."does not stand in debt to the White Russian analysis of the Revolution."[4]
The label "Judeo-Bolshevism" was used in Nazi Germany to equate Jews with communists, implying that the communist movement served Jewish interests and/or that all Jews were communists.[5] According to Hannah Arendt, it was "the most efficient fiction of Nazi Propaganda".[6] In Poland before World War II, ¯ydokomuna was used in the same way to allege that the Jews were conspiring with the USSR to capture Poland. According to André Gerrits, "The myth of Jewish Communism was one of the most popular and widespread political prejudices in the first half of the 20th century, in Eastern Europe in particular."[7] The allegation still sees use in antisemitic publications and websites today.
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 25, 2011 21:58:43 GMT 1
I WILL STOP POSTING THE TRUTH ABOUT JEWS The problem is that your truth was distorted and one-sided. I guess you are a person of age. Haven`t you learnt in the course of life that nothing is only black or white? Why are you so frustrated as to present only the black side and make us believe it is the only right one? Maybe we are naive, because we prefer to believe in the good in people. But I can tell you - with such an attitude we live happier lives than those who are full of spiteful disillusionment with the world and other people. The problem is that in Katyn and elsewhere the murderers were of different nationalities. One common trait they shared was they were Soviet. You are right. In my case, at least. I am too old to change my opinions. I will stay naive and happy. Nope, chaim. Jews won`t come to Poland to take over. It is the finished chapter of Polish Jewish relations. For most Jews Poland is a graveyard of the Jewish nation. You come to a graveyeard from time to time and quickly leave. |
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 25, 2011 22:02:59 GMT 1
WIKIPEDIA IS OWNED AND PUBLISHED BY JEWS www.jewwatch.com/jew-history-jewwatch-frank-weltner.htmlPLEASE NOTE YOU WILL GET THE JEW VIEW ON INFORMATION FROM A JEW OWNED AND OPERATED INFORMATION SITE PLEASE BE CAREFUL CIRCULATING INFORMATION FROM JEWS-IT IS BIASED TO THE JEW POINT OF VIEW 99% OF THE TIMES I KNOW YOU MEANT WELL BUT TRUTH IS HARD TO COME BY FROM JEW LIPS OR JEW PRINT |
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 26, 2011 1:40:36 GMT 1
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uncltim
Just born
I oppose most nonsense.
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Post by uncltim on Jul 26, 2011 3:38:28 GMT 1
RIGHT FROM THE TORAH-AUTHENTIC JUDAISM
Actually, he's right on this one. I'm not a comparative theologian, but I have read the Quran and Torah, some of the Talmud. Both faiths consider you less than human whether you choose to believe it or not. Your feelings/opinions affect their belief not in the least.
This will be my last post on the subject. I simply don't have the time or energy to go down this road publicly.
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Post by tufta on Jul 26, 2011 7:30:59 GMT 1
As I said - the choice is totally yours. Yes, and my choice is patience. I must be getting old. Youth is characterised by hastiness and recklessness. I used to be like that. Now I am senile and every decision of mine takes a lot of time. I can see you are really attracted to this thread. Why don`t you, instead, comment on 20 threads which I already made about Wroc³aw? I have explained why. I cannot imagine normal conversation, personal conversation, presenting perrsonal stuff in one room, while in the other hatemongering takes place. And I have said - I don't blame you, or anyone else for that. Hate is a part of life. But if yoU choose to wait and see as you senility tells you to do, don't expect the overall 'feeling' of yoru forum will remain unchanged. That't how it works, Bo. Besides - I did look through your photos . |
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 26, 2011 8:46:26 GMT 1
I have explained why. I cannot imagine normal conversation, personal conversation, presenting perrsonal stuff in one room, while in the other hatemongering takes place. And I have said - I don't blame you, or anyone else for that. Hate is a part of life. But if yoU choose to wait and see as you senility tells you to do, don't expect the overall 'feeling' of yoru forum will remain unchanged. That't how it works, Bo. Besides - I did look through your photos . I respect your emotions. Time will tell. PS. BTW, looking is not enough. I mentioned commenting. |
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Post by jeanne on Jul 26, 2011 12:20:30 GMT 1
I was babtized as a catholic but do not practice the faith It's very obvious that you do not practice the Faith...your own "faith" seems to be that of hatred, one that will end up poisoning your own life rather than (as you wish) the lives of those you hate. It's just as well you chose to give them no religious training, as what they would have received from you would be, I'm sure, skewed and harmful, rather than truthful, liberating and edifying. Truth has it's own persuasive power and if you were merely making people aware of the truth, of which I'm sure your rantings do contain some elements, then I would have no problem...but it is your editorial comments on the nature of Jews which upsets me. When one begins presenting their OPINION as truth, then we have a problem. |
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Post by jeanne on Jul 26, 2011 19:35:50 GMT 1
Oh, Jeanne! I am in the 7th heaven/on cloud 9 when I realise you are the member of this forum! What....you forgot??? ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 26, 2011 19:42:20 GMT 1
Oh, Jeanne! I am in the 7th heaven/on cloud 9 when I realise you are the member of this forum! What....you forgot??? ;D ;D ;D Yes. I am very absent-minded. There is a thread about it. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by jeanne on Jul 26, 2011 19:46:24 GMT 1
I have closer than further, as one Polish film character said. Do you understand it? No...explain, please! |
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 26, 2011 20:41:53 GMT 1
Sorry if you think I am opiniated on jews.Almost All of my posts have links so it is not just my opinion
This link is an example of jew hate-these are the jews words not mine
They have been taught to be clever devils for centuries and can easily outfox non jews who have morals
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Post by valpomike on Jul 26, 2011 20:51:02 GMT 1
If you were a true man, you would answer my direct mail to you, so I could try and understand you better.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 26, 2011 21:07:57 GMT 1
This link is an example of jew hate-these are the jews words not mine Hmm, I propose another link then: In the name of tolerance: |
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Post by uncltim on Jul 26, 2011 23:53:53 GMT 1
In the end we all work out our own salvation. Whether Jew, Christian, Moslem, or Pastafarian.
To disallow any opinion to be expressed regardless of its worth or foolishness is a form of soft tyranny that leads to things like the Norway shootings. Think about that. Some of my favorite sites are those where I can speak freely without being modded out of existence. The tone and delivery of a thought carry as much weight to some as the message itself. Being bombastic or sensational is a poor delivery method and generally non-productive. I tend to not be easily offended because I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion. I learn alot of things in a verbal dogfight. It comes at a cost, but its worth it.
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 27, 2011 1:43:17 GMT 1
You are 100% right
Thank you for your thoughts
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Post by tufta on Jul 27, 2011 7:47:48 GMT 1
In the end we all work out our own salvation. Whether Jew, Christian, Moslem, or Pastafarian. To disallow any opinion to be expressed regardless of its worth or foolishness is a form of soft tyranny that leads to things like the Norway shootings. Think about that. Some of my favorite sites are those where I can speak freely without being modded out of existence. The tone and delivery of a thought carry as much weight to some as the message itself. Being bombastic or sensational is a poor delivery method and generally non-productive. I tend to not be easily offended because I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion. I learn alot of things in a verbal dogfight. It comes at a cost, but its worth it. Uncletim, I think we completelely disagree on this point. I am not sure what the word 'modded' means, nontheless - noone, including you or me is disallowed to speak or threatened with digital no-existence. The point is of another kind: namely - there're a lot of places on the web, I believe, where verbal dogifights take place on the daily basis. It is our choice if take part in them, learn from them, or otherwise. BUt there are very few in which over YEARS people meet, exchange even opposite ideas, yet there's are dogfights there. Such place used to be Bonobos forum. I am sure it will prosper well when it changes allowing people on the mission to enter and wind up certain notions. Please not that the Jewish colaboration, misdoings, etc etc where thotoughly presented in this forum. In a balanced, intelligent way. Do we need an intellectual equivalent of a stick hiting our head to have a message conveyed? For that 'guys on te mission' are perfect. Besides - would you treat with full reverence a guy coming to you out of the blue with a message, i.e. ' Poland must get the truth out about the American bandits', enclosing the carefully chosen , overinterpreted facts from American history? Most of all would you treat such a guy a reliable source of information out of the anti-American context? Norway - I think you are doing a transposition here. And very grave one. The guy was not disallowed to speak out his mind. And if he didn't like the immigrants he could act politically against it, not - do I use a word correctly? - literally mod them out of existance... |
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Post by chaimsincere on Jul 31, 2011 18:58:59 GMT 1
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Post by valpomike on Jul 31, 2011 19:34:32 GMT 1
When are you going to give up, you know we don't want to read this hate trash.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Aug 1, 2011 22:37:18 GMT 1
I am so glad to see, the Jew Hater has not postted in some time, I hope he does not, or clears up his thinking, before he does.
Mike
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