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Post by Bonobo on May 25, 2011 21:35:11 GMT 1
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Post by Bonobo on May 27, 2011 11:44:31 GMT 1
Today Obama is coming to Poland. Oh my, oh my, I am so elated!! I will greet him at the airport. Tufta, meet me at Terminal 4. I will be holding a giant bouquet of roses for Obama.
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Post by valpomike on May 27, 2011 16:40:48 GMT 1
Is he looking for another grandfather in Poland? He will do whatever it takes to get a vote, but Poland does not vote for him, do they?
He can't answer questions given him, unless he has the answers written down for him, since he does not have a mind of his own.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on May 27, 2011 22:15:28 GMT 1
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Post by valpomike on May 28, 2011 0:00:38 GMT 1
So they say, but no one ever check the count.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on May 28, 2011 21:42:07 GMT 1
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Post by Bonobo on May 28, 2011 21:55:33 GMT 1
 Warsaw, Poland—
President Barack Obama visited with Illinois troops while in Warsaw, Poland.
He and twelve Illinois National Guard soldiers took part in a wreath-laying ceremony yesterday, at the tomb of the unknown soldier.
The Illinois soldiers are training with Polish forces on responding to a chemical attack, as part of the State Partnership Program.
Its director, Capt. Douglas Coop, presented the president with an Illinois National Guard State Partnership Program coin.
Mr. Obama talked about the Bulls' playoff loss and thanked them for their service.
"The President took time to shake each of our hands and visit briefly with use, acknowledging that we're all from his home state," said Coop.
The troops - from Carol Stream, Chicago, Bismark, Rockford, Granite City, Cottage Hills, Glenarm, Alton, Jacksonville, Chatham and Woodstock - return home this weekend.        WARSAW, Poland — President Barack Obama on Friday honored the memories of those slain in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising against Nazis, telling one elderly man that the memorial was a "reminder of the nightmare" of the Holocaust in which tens of millions of Jews were killed.
CHARLES DHARAPAK / ASSOCIATED PRESS
In the final phase of his European trip, the president greeted Holocaust survivors and leaders of Poland's Jewish community at the Monument to the Ghetto Heroes. He smiled, shook hands and hugged those gathered under a light rain, including some who shared memories of having met Obama at earlier times.
"What a wonderful visit. I'll have to bring my daughters," Obama said as he exited the memorial. The monument in the former Jewish ghetto commemorates the tens of thousands of Jews killed in a 1943 uprising against the Nazis during Germany's brutal occupation of Poland during World War II.
Most of the insurgents in that uprising were killed, but the event bears great importance in Jewish history as an example of Jews bravely taking up arms, albeit against the odds, to defend themselves against the Nazis. It's also a key memorial in a country that before the Holocaust was home to Europe's largest Jewish community.
Among those Obama met was Halina Szpilman, the widow of Wladyslaw Szpilman, the Holocaust survivor featured in Roman Polanski's Oscar-winning film "The Pianist." Obama kissed Szpilman, a retired doctor who lost her husband in 2000, on both cheeks. A leading member of the Jewish communist, Monika Krawczyk, was heard urging Obama to do all he can to support Israel, saying, "It's the only Jewish state we have." Obama assured her that the United States would be there for Israel.
Obama arrived in Warsaw on a cool and cloudy Friday evening, hoping to inject some vigor into a relationship with an ally that has sometimes felt slighted by Washington.
His primary business of the night was a dinner with Central and Eastern European Union leaders. The president intended to emphasize how their experiences with democracy could offer real-life lessons to those seeking freedoms across North Africa and the Middle East.
Upon arrival, Obama helped placed a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, dedicated to all unidentified soldiers who have given their lives to Poland in past wars. Obama shook hands and chatted warmly with elderly veterans in uniform who had fought Nazi Germany during World War II, including at least one woman. Several of them saluted him. He also greeted younger soldiers and veterans who have served in NATO's mission in Afghanistan.
The president then headed to the presidential palace for dinner, to be followed on Saturday by meetings and a news conference before his return to Washington.
Obama did not come bearing the news Polish officials wanted: access to a visa waiver program for those traveling to the United States. Obama aides said he would provide officials a status update on the effort but was not in position yet to offer more.
Hours before Obama's arrival, Polish headlines were dominated by news that he was being snubbed by legendary Solidarity founder Lech Walesa, who said he was refusing to meet with Obama.
Solidarity was a national freedom movement under Walesa's leadership in the 1980s that helped bring down communism. His courage in defying communist authorities at the time earned him a Nobel peace prize. Walesa said in televised remarks that President Bronislaw Komorowski and the U.S. ambassador to Poland had called him hoping to persuade him to meet Obama. Walesa insisted, however, that he had no interest in a meeting that would amount to little more than a photo-op.
"This time a meeting does not suit me," the 67-year-old former president said in comments on news station TVN24. His office said he planned instead to attend a biblical festival in Italy.
Walesa refused to divulge more, but it seemed possible he was offended at not being offered a one-on-one meeting with Obama early on. Walesa had been invited to meet with Obama along with other former leaders of the anti-communist movement and current party leaders.
Obama will hold two days of political meetings focusing on security, energy and joint U.S.-Polish efforts to promote democracy in North Africa, Belarus and elsewhere in Eastern Europe.
But unlike past U.S. presidents who visited this nation of 38 million, Obama will not meet or address the Polish public directly. That deprives him of the chance to connect directly — and emotionally — with Poles in the way former presidents such as George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton did on visits to the country.
Friday's dinner will be with about 20 Central and Eastern European leaders holding a yearly summit. However, the inclusion of Kosovo's president has caused a diplomatic wrinkle, prompting Serbia and Romania to boycott the event in protest. Neither one recognizes the independence of the former Serbian province.
Obama's trip will also feature bilateral talks that will focus on security issues. Defense Minister Bogdan Klich said the two countries would discuss a plan for Washington to station F-16 fighter jets and Hercules planes in Poland on a rotational basis starting in 2013.
Perhaps most importantly, the trip offers a chance for Washington to stress to Poles that it considers the relationship important — a message U.S. officials have made an effort to stress.
Poles have felt in past years that both the administrations of George W. Bush and of Obama have neglected their concerns, and traditionally strong pro-American sentiments are in decline compared with the early years after the fall of communism. At that time, Washington was seen as both a model of democracy that helped end the Cold War and as Poland's main guarantor of security in a region where Russia still throws its weight around.
 Tufta, I can see you. You are standing at the lamp post! For security reasons, I won`t tell which.    Shit! The pen doesn`t work!     Presents from Poles: Ipod with films about Poland  PC game Witcher 2.  plus a series of fantasy books about Witcher  |
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Post by Bonobo on May 28, 2011 22:54:10 GMT 1
Obama visit causes chaos
28th May 2011
© Nowotny/EastNews
A massive security operation in advance of a much heralded visit by US President Barack Obama has left large chunks of the capital closed off and shut to the public.
Police roped off many of Warsaw’s main arteries in preparation for the arrival of the American president, including the airport road and Aleja Jerozolimskie, in an operation that has brought woe to hundreds of thousands of residents.
The Marriott Hotel, home to Mr Obama for two nights, has become a total exclusion zone with only a favoured few gaining access to its surroundings.
Businesses have also been disrupted, with many companies telling staff to leave work early to avoid the worst of the disruption, while restaurants and bars close to the presidential palace, an area subject to another total exclusion order, have had to suffer in silence with empty tables and chairs.
The scale of the operation has drawn flack owing to its apparent excessive zeal. Critics have pointed out that while many main streets in Warsaw were shut in advance, in London they were only closed when the American leader actually started his journey.
A large number of demonstrators have also taken to the streets to voice opposition over the visit of Mr Obama.
Such protests, and stories of communication and transport “Armageddon”, have cast a shadow over a visit from which the government hopes to make political capital.
Talks over the redeployment of the United States’ F16s from Italy to Poland will top the agenda, with Poland hoping for an agreement that would see a substantial American presence on Polish soil in a bid to get boots on the ground.
Debate over just how many F16s might come to Poland has been clouded by rumours of disagreements between Warsaw and Washington, with the Polish government apparently wanting a permanent presence while Washington would prefer a rotational commitment.
Mr Obama’s visit has also coincided with a gathering of Central and Eastern European heads of state, but even that has failed to avoid controversy with Serbia and Romania boycotting the event in protest over an invitation to the president of Kosovo, a country that neither Bucharest or Belgrade recognise.
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Post by valpomike on May 29, 2011 1:26:07 GMT 1
What was he doing near a priest, he has no religon. Tell them they best count the silverware, now that he is gone.
Why do you, and some of the Polish people like him so much? We here, in the U.S.A., the thinking people, don't.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on May 29, 2011 7:53:47 GMT 1
What was he doing near a priest, he has no religon. Tell them they best count the silverware, now that he is gone. Why do you, and some of the Polish people like him so much? We here, in the U.S.A., the thinking people, don't. Mike Tufta and I like him because he didn`t close down Guantanamo prison, despite his unwise promises. In this way we can feel safe in Poland. Thank you Obama. ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by tufta on May 29, 2011 11:07:57 GMT 1
Tufta, I can see you. You are standing at the lamp post! For security reasons, I won`t tell which. Dear Bo  Your security measures are implemented much too late, I am afraid You woke up the Echelon many posts earlier with your enigmatic 'I will meet him at gate 4 with a bouquette'. Expect knocking on your door sometime around 4 a.m. But as always you may count on your old friend tufta - I will send you to prison only the most carefully chosen onions and sporty. |
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Post by valpomike on May 29, 2011 13:26:02 GMT 1
He did not close any prison, because, he could not, even with wanting to. He is no leader, just reads what is given him, and not good at that.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on May 29, 2011 22:00:18 GMT 1
He is no leader, just reads what is given him, Mike You have been repeating it for years. But where are the facts, Mike? How can you prove your allegations/accusations/ allusions? We need concrete explanation why Obama is a puppet, as you claim. PS. One remark: The guy is nearly 50 but looks 60. That`s what power makes with people   I would never want to be a politician. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D My students, when I play age-guess game with them, repeatedly lower my real age by about 8 years. |
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Post by Bonobo on May 29, 2011 22:28:10 GMT 1
Tufta, I can see you. You are standing at the lamp post! For security reasons, I won`t tell which. Dear Bo Your security measures are implemented much too late, I am afraid You woke up the Echelon many posts earlier with your enigmatic 'I will meet him at gate 4 with a bouquette'. Expect knocking on your door sometime around 4 a.m. Wow! Those Warsovians are really ahead of Krakowians. Living in the capital city increases knowlegde undoubtedly. I had no idea what Echelon is. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_%28signals_intelligence%29Onion is OK, send garlic too. Don`t send sporty - I don`t smoke. Well, yes, I do, but only cigars and only during summer holidays. That`s a consequence of certain limitations I like to put on myself. Call it a hermit life style if you want but I just try to stick to a few rules of mine. |
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Post by tufta on May 30, 2011 9:08:12 GMT 1
Onion is OK, send garlic too. Don`t send sporty - I don`t smoke. Onion is to keep the sailors desease off, sporty are the currency inside prison. Garlic? You are a joker not a vampire. |
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Post by Bonobo on May 30, 2011 18:26:43 GMT 1
Onion is to keep the sailors desease off, sporty are the currency inside prison. Garlic? You are a joker not a vampire. OK, I am going to Bieszczady mountains to hide. For a while I will be absent in the forum. A year or two, I suppose. Before I leave, let`s talk. Why do you think Walêsa turned down Obama? Why Walesa snubbed Obama30.05.2011
Lech Walesa’s rebuttal of an invitation to meet the American president made headlines both in Poland and abroad.
“It doesn’t suit me, and that’s all you’re going to hear from me,” the Solidarity icon declared when quizzed about the invitation by TV station TV24.
Journalists and politicians were swift to lambast the former president for his seemingly tactless remark.
“Lech Walesa could have done good for Poland, but he didn’t do so, because he’s an egotist,” said MEP Marek Siwiec (SLD).
Various theories have been raised about why the Solidarity legend declined the invitation to Saturday’s meeting.
Writing in the Gazeta Wyborcza daily, columnist Bartosz Weglarczyk suggested that the root of the matter was Walesa’s pride.
“My theory sounds like this,” Wegalrczyk reflected. just hours before Obama’s arrival.
“The Nobel Peace Prize laureate does not want to meet with another Nobel Peace Prize laureate as part of a group.
“I have a feeling that the former president would go to the meeting if it was a one-on-one encounter.”
Was there also an element that Walesa felt more deserving of his prize than some other winners?
Most of the theories are pure speculation. Indeed, perhaps there is a more humdrum explanation than wounded pride.
According to Walesa’s office, the Solidarity legend was only invited to the meeting on Friday morning and indeed, he had an prior engagement in Italy the following evening.
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Post by valpomike on May 31, 2011 19:48:02 GMT 1
Walesa was correct in not showing up, after all, what did this president, from the U.S.A. ever do for Poland, or what will he do? He only does things that bring him a return thing.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on May 31, 2011 19:52:15 GMT 1
what did this president, from the U.S.A. ever do for Poland, or what will he do? He only does things that bring him a return thing. Mike What did President Bush do for Poland when at power? |
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Post by valpomike on May 31, 2011 19:55:35 GMT 1
He sent money to help, and tried to set up a radar site, with troops to man it, and many more things. But the other part held congress, and stopped him, whenever he wanted to help.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on May 31, 2011 20:05:53 GMT 1
I know nothing about it. But people`s memory and gratitude is faulty. ;D ;D ;D Trying doesn`t mean he did it. Hmmm..... ?? Please, don`t make me laugh. ;D ;D ;D ;D Demos won the majority in Congress in 2006 while Bush and Reps were in power from 2001. |
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Post by valpomike on May 31, 2011 20:08:36 GMT 1
Best check again, Bush had a congress full of Demo's, and had his hands tied. This could be what I mean when I say slanted reporting. People here know better, and the truth.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on May 31, 2011 20:45:23 GMT 1
I just did , Mike. But it doesn`t matter, really. Let`s be realists. The last US President Poles can be grateful to is Clinton who supported Polish access into NATO. Are you able to swallow it? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Exactly, Mike. People here, in Poland, know better and the truth. I am one of these people. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by valpomike on Jun 1, 2011 19:52:50 GMT 1
Clinton wanted some one to swallow. Re-read your history. Bush was a great president, and he could not overrull congress, even with trying.
Mike
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