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Post by pjotr on Jan 26, 2016 23:01:20 GMT 1
Yesterday I filmed and followed a far right demonstration against refugees in Arnhem. The atmosphere was hostile against the press, which they consider leftwing. But I stayed and filmen and interviewed two demonstrators. One of them was the leader of the far right Dutch Peoples Nationalist NVU (DUtch Peoples Union). Ofcourse I am not a leftwinger, because I am not a social-liberal, nor a socialist nor a communist (Marxist-Leninist) or active anarchist. But being a professional cameraman, editor and interviewer makes you a socialist nowadays. Funny. This is the tv report and youtube I made (the voice of the interviewer is mine)Russian colleagues were filming and making teir report there too. ruptly.tv/vod/20160125-056 |
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Post by tomek on Jan 27, 2016 10:07:29 GMT 1
At start I see big poster with knight in armour and later horse riding person. Also knight?
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Post by pjotr on Jan 27, 2016 17:12:58 GMT 1
Tomek,
These guys with the banner of the knight in Armour are Dutch far right Neo-Nazi's. The knight is a crussader who fights against Muslims in the Middle East during the Crussades in the Middle ages. The youth wing of this party is called 'Germanic Youth'. That is a direct link to the Hitler youth of Hitlers Third Reich. The party honours the fallen Dutch Waffen SS soldiers of the Second World war and take care of the grave of the Dutch Black Widow, Rost van Tonningen.
Dutch Neo-Nazi leader speaks to German Neo-Nazi's. He says that the former property of Germany in Poland must become German again.
Cheers,
Pieter
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 27, 2016 20:56:51 GMT 1
1 Ofcourse I am not a leftwinger, because I am not a social-liberal, nor a socialist nor a communist (Marxist-Leninist) or active anarchist. But being a professional cameraman, editor and interviewer makes you a socialist nowadays. Funny. 2 Russian colleagues were filming and making teir report there too. 1 I thought you are all of them in one.  2 Why Russians?? PS. At 1:12 there is a little squabble with a flag. I can`t interpret it. |
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Post by pjotr on Jan 28, 2016 3:54:39 GMT 1
1 Ofcourse I am not a leftwinger, because I am not a social-liberal, nor a socialist nor a communist (Marxist-Leninist) or active anarchist. But being a professional cameraman, editor and interviewer makes you a socialist nowadays. Funny. 2 Russian colleagues were filming and making teir report there too. 1 I thought you are all of them in one. 2 Why Russians?? PS. At 1:12 there is a little squabble with a flag. I can`t interpret it. 1) - I am neutral and objective as a TV and radio cameraman, interviewer/journalist and editor. I like the fact that in my job I have contact with all political parties, movements and thus all the political opinions and activism which take place and are present in my city Arnhem. I have co-organised political debates and interviewed conservative-liberals, conservatives, christian-democrats, christian-Union people, social-democrats, socialists, marxists, rightwing populists, neo-nazi's, Muslims, Jews, Hindu's, atheists, agnostics, Gay activists, feminists, Pro-life and Pro-Choice activists and etc. What I vote in the election office every 4 years is my own private decision and opinion. I keep that to myself. 2) - The Russians are interested in what is going on in Europe, because they have economical, financial, geopolitical (political), tactical and strategic interests over here. They want to know what the political climate is over here. The Russians won't to know if xenophobia and racism are strong over here, and how the political opinin about refugees and immigrants is over here, because Russia has strategic interests in the Middle east (Good ties with Iran and Syria, and recently close new ties with Egypt) The little squabble with the flag was a minor incident. The world of the far right parties and movements in the Netherlands is a world with a history of infighting, rivalry, disputes,quarrels and break ups. The old man with the blue flag was of a different party and shouting slogans annoyed the young lady (I interviewed in the Second half of the video). She wanted to make an end to the guys dominant and shouting presence. She was not a member of the Dutch Peoples Union of Constant Kusters, she is a concerned citizen. It was a minor scuffle. Police was everywhere. The organisation who organised the demo knew that the slightest sing of onrust, riot or violence would be put down by the police, riot police and the mounted police on horses. Cheers, Pieter |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 30, 2016 14:55:04 GMT 1
1) I have co-organised political debates and interviewed conservative-liberals, conservatives, christian-democrats, christian-Union people, social-democrats, socialists, marxists, rightwing populists, neo-nazi's, Muslims, Jews, Hindu's, atheists, agnostics, Gay activists, feminists, Pro-life and Pro-Choice activists and etc. 2) - The Russians are interested in what is going on in Europe, because they have economical, financial, geopolitical (political), tactical and strategic interests over here. They want to know what the political climate is over here. The Russians won't to know if xenophobia and racism are strong over here, and how the political opinin about refugees and immigrants is over here, because Russia has strategic interests in the Middle east (Good ties with Iran and Syria, and recently close new ties with Egypt) 3 The little squabble with the flag was a minor incident. The world of the far right parties and movements in the Netherlands is a world with a history of infighting, rivalry, disputes,quarrels and break ups. The old man with the blue flag was of a different party and shouting slogans annoyed the young lady (I interviewed in the Second half of the video). She wanted to make an end to the guys dominant and shouting presence. She was not a member of the Dutch Peoples Union of Constant Kusters, she is a concerned citizen. It was a minor scuffle. Police was everywhere. The organisation who organised the demo knew that the slightest sing of onrust, riot or violence would be put down by the police, riot police and the mounted police on horses. Cheers, Pieter 1 I have an idea. Someone should make a movie about WW3 and an atomic shelter where a representative of each of the mentioned groups should hide. Would it be a horror or comedy blockbuster?? 2 Yes, that`s obvious that Russians are interested in all upheavals in EU. But the fact that they are able to cover even such, sorry, small events as in Arnhem, proves how much money they invest in it while Russian economy is falling down. 3 I don`t quite understand. The man with a flag is right winger. The woman is a regular citizen who is against refugees. And she gets annoyed because the man is too loud and she can`t bring across her opinion to the reporters. Correct? |
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Post by pjotr on Jan 31, 2016 14:25:09 GMT 1
1 - That would be a very interesting idea, and would be a mix of a comedy like movie and Born Identity.
2 - I was surprised that the camera crew of RT was in Arnhem for a local demonstration of a small far right Dutch party and a local committee of concerned citizens. It was a small event indeed, but for the small city Arnhem a big event, because there were a few hundred demonstrators. And it is part of a movement and process against refugees in the Netherlands, because these kind of events took place in several places in the Netherlands. In other towns it turned violent.
3 - The woman is part of a group of concerned citizens from a Southern suburb of Arnhem. She is part of the group AZC ELDEN NEE (No refugee centre in Elden). The woman herself stated in her speech that she is not racist and has coloured children herself. She is against the large wave of refugees that is coming to Elden and other parts of the Netherlands. Many Dutch people think that there are already enough immigrants and refugees in the Netherlands, and that more refugees will endanger the balance in our society. Others from left to right think that we have to help the refugees from a human, solidarity, international law and European treaty perspective. The Dutch society is divided about the refugee situation. Today I read that there are 10.000 refugee children missing in Europe. This is dangerous due to human trafficking rings, child abuse, child prostitution and other dangers these children might face. These are children and young teenagers that travelled without parents or family members. The situation in Europe is chaotic.
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 31, 2016 21:05:15 GMT 1
1 - That would be a very interesting idea, and would be a mix of a comedy like movie and Born Identity. 2 - I was surprised that the camera crew of RT was in Arnhem for a local demonstration of a small far right Dutch party and a local committee of concerned citizens. It was a small event indeed, but for the small city Arnhem a big event, because there were a few hundred demonstrators. And it is part of a movement and process against refugees in the Netherlands, because these kind of events took place in several places in the Netherlands. In other towns it turned violent. 3 - The woman is part of a group of concerned citizens from a Southern suburb of Arnhem. She is part of the group AZC ELDEN NEE (No refugee centre in Elden). The woman herself stated in her speech that she is not racist and has coloured children herself. She is against the large wave of refugees that is coming to Elden and other parts of the Netherlands. Many Dutch people think that there are already enough immigrants and refugees in the Netherlands, and that more refugees will endanger the balance in our society. Others from left to right think that we have to help the refugees from a human, solidarity, international law and European treaty perspective. The Dutch society is divided about the refugee situation. Today I read that there are 10.000 refugee children missing in Europe. This is dangerous due to human trafficking rings, child abuse, child prostitution and other dangers these children might face. These are children and young teenagers that travelled without parents or family members. The situation in Europe is chaotic. 1 Well, it could start as a comedy and finish as a horror. Who would form alliance with whom to get rid of whom? There must be a shortage of supplies in the shelter, of course and someone must leave. 2 It is possible that Arnhem had been chosen by the Russian canal as the place they deicded to make a fooatge about protests. If they had covered all places, that would be really curious. 3 Yes, I also read about children. But that might be a humbug spread for propaganda reasons. |
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