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Post by Bonobo on Jun 1, 2018 21:08:04 GMT 1
Once, PiS as opposition did their best to make life difficult for the previously ruling party. That was normal in a democratic country and nobody objected apart from experts who warned that the quality of political debate in Poland was going down because PiS used dirty methods too often. Today, when the same things are done to PiS by present opposition, they cry out about traitors, communist collaborators, swine and stupid mob. Why?? Is it a natural trait of right wing politics to see the straw in the eyes of their opponents, overlooking the beams in theirs? In 2014 Jarosław Kaczyński from PiS demanded the government to lower taxes on fuel in order to lessen the financial burden on millions of drivers and their families. He accused the ruling party of complete ineptitude and promised to lower them when PiS comes to power.  Of course, PiS has done nothing about the cost of fuel so far. When anti PiS Parliament member imitated Kaczyński in 2018, he was booed and silenced by PiS members in the Parliament.    |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 2, 2018 9:40:56 GMT 1
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 16, 2018 17:25:03 GMT 1
Once PiS critisized former government for wasting money on flights from Warsaw to their home places. Prime Minister Tusk was infamous for that - his flights Warsaw Gdańsk cost taxpayers a lot.
Today PiS government does the same. Prime Minister Szydło regularly flew from Warsaw to her village. 77 times by Air Force plane, each flight cost 10K$.
Hey, didn`t PiS promise everything would be completely different when they come to power???
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 31, 2019 21:57:12 GMT 1
When in opposition, PiS was involved in secret recording of their political opponents. Some of the tapes surfaced reguarly and caused a series of scandals. PiS claimed the tapes were enough to result in the government`s resignation. For a change, read an article from the state, PiS oriented site polandin.com/41104392/towergate-a-threat-to-ruling-party-leaders-image
The concerted campaign by pro-opposition media threatens the image of the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) leader Jarosław Kaczyński as it attempts to challenge his integrity. It is this aspect rather than any legal threats which will be most worrying to him and his party.
The tapes of the conversation from July 27, 2018, published on Monday by “Gazeta Wyborcza”, concern the attempt to build a 190 m high office building on a plot of land owned by a company run by associates of Mr Kaczyński.
The meeting was attended by the PiS leader Jarosław Kaczyński and Gerald Birgfellner, a real-estate developer who is married to a distant member of Kaczyński's family. The parties were trying to find a solution which would have enabled the Austrian to get paid (EUR 1.3 million) for work which had already been done on the project.
Legal implications
“Gazeta Wyborcza” and the opposition claim that Mr Kaczyński has broken laws on party financing, duties of a member of parliament as well as having behaved unethically towards the Austrian businessman.
The allegation of fraud having been committed was submitted at the Warsaw prosecutor's office by Birgfellner's attorneys, Jacek Dubois and Roman Giertych. They claim that Mr Kaczyński deceived the Austrian.
It may prove difficult to prove that Mr Kaczyński intended to mislead Mr Birfgellner and that he wanted to benefit materially from it. Without such proof there can be no conviction.
Civil liability is another route. During the conversation with Mr Birgfellner, Jarosław Kaczyński says that the work had been done for "us", meaning the company which owned the land. However, Mr Kaczyński has no formal basis whatsoever to conduct the company's business. He is only a member of the board of the Lech Kaczyński Foundation, which is the majority shareholder of the company that owns the land.
If Mr Birgfellner can prove that Mr Kaczyński gave him instructions on behalf of the company, then its board could confirm the instructions given by Mr Kaczyński and thus take responsibility for carrying them out upon itself. Only if it does not do so, then, Birgfellner could demand that the PiS leader make good the damage incurred as a result of his actions.
The opposition and the newspaper which published the tapes also allege that a violation of the law on the discharge of MPs duties has taken place. The legislation stipulates that MPs are obliged to disclose any gains in a register. Apart from donations and trips abroad paid for by third persons, MPs should also include information about membership of a foundation's or commercial company's management board, even if they are serving on a pro-publico bono basis.
The newspaper claims that Mr Kaczyński attended an extraordinary shareholders' meeting of the company which owns the land in January. This information does not feature in the register of the MPs interests, despite the fact that he should have entered it by March 2018. The law does not, however, constitute an obstacle in running a business or representing other entities, unless the MP uses state or municipal property with that regard.
Claims have also been made that the PiS leader has violated provisions of the law on the financing of political parties which make it illegal for parties to conduct commercial activities Based on the information available, there is no link between Mr Kaczyński's actions and direct involvement of the party. The fact that Mr Kaczyński represented a company in some capacity and that other ruling party members might have been involved is not enough. In each of these roles, they appear as natural persons, not as party members or entities.
The irony may turn out to be that the only crime committed was by the Austrian developer who recorded a private conversation without permission. The ruling party PiS has pointed out that unlike the previous Civic Platform government they have not attempted to use security services to seize the recordings, as was done back in 2016 when a group of waiters recorded conversations involving top state officials in two top Warsaw restaurants. Nevertheless, it is possible for Mr Kaczyński to report a crime here.
Image problems
It is most likely that the Austrian businessman will seek redress in the courts and appearing in court will be politically awkward for the PiS leader. He will have to explain his involvement in the planned construction of the office buildings and talk about the backdrop of his actions on behalf of the company under oath. The Austrian has chosen high profile media savvy lawyers who have been working with opposition politicians.
Another angle which Mr Kaczyński does not welcome is that of being painted as a wealthy man just because he sits on a foundation’s board and has considerable influence. Not everyone understands that members of Boards of companies do not get dividends nor are they in any way the owners of a foundation.
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 24, 2020 12:03:39 GMT 1
A few years ago, when in opposition, PiS claimed the local elections were falsified and complained about it to the EU parliament. thevotingnews.com/thousands-protest-election-results-in-poland-associated-press/ Poland: Thousands Protest Election Results in Poland | Associated Press
Dec 15 2014
Thousands of supporters of a conservative opposition party in Poland marched on Saturday to protest the results of recent local elections, which party leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski says were falsified. The November elections were marred by problems, with a computer glitch delaying results and many ballots declared invalid because voters apparently were confused and marked them incorrectly. However, there is no indication they were falsified. Kaczynski’s critics accuse him of making false claims about the election outcome to motivate his base ahead of national elections next year. His supporters marched in Warsaw under the slogan “in the support of democracy,” chanting “repeat the elections.”
Full Article: Thousands Protest Election Results in Poland - ABC News. Today, PIS is in power and rejects the opposition`s right to report PIS`s dirty machinations to the EU. PIS and rightwing media are furious and call the opposition informers. hahahaha wyborcza.pl/10,82983,25629095,posel-pis-wykrzykuje-w-sejmie-do-opozycji-jestescie-donosicielami.html |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 27, 2020 8:44:08 GMT 1
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