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Post by Bonobo on Jan 25, 2008 22:08:54 GMT 1
A Dutch disco group released a clip about Polish workers called "Van full of Poles." Music reminds one of polka dancing.
How are Poles presented? Mixed.
Positive features of Poles:
1. They are jolly fellows - they dance, sing, smile, have fun.
2. They wear clean overalls and look quite OK, clean shaven etc.
3. They seem busy at work.
Negative aspects:
1. They drink a lot of vodka and beer.
2. They take a piss near the main road.
3. They get foolishly excited in a shop.
4. Sometimes they behave like clowns.
The lyrics:
Yes, you see them everywhere,
It's a bordercase,
Still they are my idols,
(the red sign on the van says: "For sale")
Where i stand or where i go,
I always wave at them going by,
those vans filled with Polish.
They have in our neigbourhood,
again rented a house,
cozy with them all (together).
And when the work by the evening is done,
then goes the Polka music loudly on.
On the fields (farm) or in the construction (build)
They really just don't care
They come with many (alltogether)
For some €10,-'s and a can of beer,
They come for our aid, that's why they're here
A van, a van, a van full with Polish.
And a van, and a van. Go,go,go!
A van, a van, a van full with Polish.
And a van, and a van. Go,go,go!
Poles have had different reactions to this clip.
Those with a sense of humour laugh and take it as a good joke.
Those patriotic ones consider it bad taste and call the Dutch names for making such a song.
Hmm, I think we needn`t go to war over it. The Poles in the clip are not so bad after all and their drinking and clownish behaviour is close to reality. That`s how the Dutch see us and if we want to change their perception, we must change ourselves.
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 19, 2008 22:03:58 GMT 1
A surprising Pollack joke commercial was produced by Agata Podedworny, a Pole born in the USA. She owns the Alchemy vodka brand. See the commercial: www.snotr.com/video/638I wonder what you think about it. First remark: the music they play in the background isn`t Polish. It is some Russian war song. The heavy accent of the English speaker is also Russian. What the heck? Second remark: I read that American Polonia is outraged. |
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Post by livia on Feb 22, 2008 10:35:18 GMT 1
BTW. You have lately presented two clips - Polish vodka ad and Polish bus by some Dutch band. You was wondering if readers think they're offensive. . For me the Polish vodka ad was great and funny. The 'Dutch song was not offensive either but was not funny ;D ;D ;D Just an opinion!
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 22, 2008 10:41:43 GMT 1
I think the opposite: I like the Dutch clip and dislike the silly commerical. It is low. |
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 2, 2008 22:37:29 GMT 1
Chaser, a comedy show, released this:
The boys from Chaser are playing a joke on Polish Clubs in Sydney. They are getting access to the Polish Club in Bankstown (the outside shots are from Polish Club in Ashfield, Sydney) dressed up as members of the german SA and then walk in dressed as Hitler. The receptionist salutes Hitler with her own "heil hitler".
Well, I think it is funny, not racial.
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Post by ola on Mar 7, 2008 23:38:06 GMT 1
The Vodka ad is hilarious - especially the solar powered flash light bit. The others, at least those that were intended to be funny, didn't quite make it. But the Vodka one is really brilliant. I really can't imagine why anyone should be outraged by it.
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Post by Bonobo on May 27, 2008 19:29:32 GMT 1
A small soccer lottery agency in Germany released a clip in which German soccer fans leave their car to take a pee and when they turn around, it is gone. At the end there is a big slogan advertising the match between Germany and Poland during this year`s championships. Some Poles feel offended as they claim the clip makes an allusion to the activity of Polish gangs which specialised in stealing cars in Germany in 1990s. It seems Germans have remembered it till today. Enraged Poles make such comments: f...... german idiots, u'll never get clean by using soap made of people. Hmm, aren`t they overreacting? The clip is here: pl.youtube.com/watch?v=NHQW8IeV8lE&feature=related |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 5, 2008 12:44:57 GMT 1
A small soccer lottery agency in Germany released a clip in which German soccer fans leave their car to take a pee and when they turn around, it is gone. At the end there is a big slogan advertising the match between Germany and Poland during this year`s championships. Some Poles feel offended as they claim the clip makes an allusion to the activity of Polish gangs which specialised in stealing cars in Germany in 1990s. It seems Germans have remembered it till today. Enraged Poles make such comments: f...... german idiots, u'll never get clean by using soap made of people. Hmm, aren`t they overreacting? The clip is here: pl.youtube.com/watch?v=NHQW8IeV8lE&feature=relatedhahahaaha It seems Polish tabloids decided to take their revenge and are paying tit for tat. Wednesday`s edition of Super Express, a Polish tabloid paper, published these pictures of a Polish soccer national team`s coach holding German players` heads.   Germans are enraged and accuse Poles of starting the dirty war. Hmm, who started first? ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by valpomike on Jun 5, 2008 21:17:00 GMT 1
Are the Germans acting up again. Let's stop it this time, before it gets out of hand.
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Post by locopolaco on Jun 6, 2008 4:29:09 GMT 1
the german ad is pretty funny and based on some reality. i think the polish ad is a tad far considering our histories. but let's hope polska ekipa shows up the germans for a change.  |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 11, 2008 14:23:40 GMT 1
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 18, 2008 20:19:04 GMT 1
Theater gets politically incorrect with 'Polish Joke'
Aurora Advocate, OH
7/16/08
"Polacks are the punch line of Western Civilization, " or so young
Jasiu Sadlowski is told by his Uncle Roman as a boy. It is this bent
perspective that launches him into a lifetime of trying to deny his
Polish roots. His increasingly desperate and absurd attempts to hide his heritage are the basis for David Ives' surreal comedy "Polish Joke," on stage at Chagrin Valley Little Theatre's River Street
Playhouse.
David Ives is best known for his hit one-act comedies such as "All In
The Timing" and "Phillip Glass Buys a Loaf of Bread," as well as his
multi-award- winning "Don Juan in Chicago." Through the semi-
autobiographical "Polish Joke," he examines cultural bias and the
human condition as our hero reinvents himself in a number of ways.
Young Jasiu (Justin Brenis) finds it comically difficult to navigate
job interviews, the priesthood, relationships, shopping, travel ...
every aspect of his American life. The nearly twenty characters who
surround him through his heartbreaking and zany encounters are played by just six other actors (Ken Allan, Mike Green, Taylor Hess, Amy Pelleg, Elaine Sonnie and Bobby Thomas). As the ghosts of his true heritage confront him at every turn, he learns what it really means to be "a Pole."
Director Steven Hoffman explains that the underlying motive of Polish Joke is not just to lampoon prejudice, but to emphasize that "it is self-defeating for an individual to use these stereotypes as an
excuse for not making something of his or her self." He goes on to
note that "individual choice is what largely determines a person's
destiny.
"American values are built on this cornerstone, " Hoffman said.
"Polish Joke" runs Friday and Saturday nights at 8 p.m. through July
26 at Chagrin Valley Little Theatre's River Street Playhouse, located
next to the main CVLT building.
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Post by gigi on Jul 18, 2008 23:08:06 GMT 1
Okay, I've never repeated a Polish joke before, but I did find this one kind of amusing (and related to the other thread)... Q: What is long and hard that a Polish bride gets on her wedding night? A: A new last name.  |
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 18, 2008 23:47:47 GMT 1
Okay, I've never repeated a Polish joke before, but I did find this one kind of amusing (and related to the other thread)... Q: What is long and hard that a Polish bride gets on her wedding night? A: A new last name. Funny:) PS. Gigi, I didn`t know you can be so frivolous... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by gigi on Jul 18, 2008 23:51:22 GMT 1
Funny:) PS. Gigi, I didn`t know you can be so frivolous... ;D ;D ;D Well, I would never repeat such a joke in person...  |
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Post by Bonobo on Jul 19, 2008 0:01:11 GMT 1
Funny:) PS. Gigi, I didn`t know you can be so frivolous... ;D ;D ;D Well, I would never repeat such a joke in person... When in the USA, I read this joke in an issue of Playboy: A peasant woman from Eastern Europe picks up a carrot and murmurs to herself: Reminds me of my husband.... Her female companion: Oh la la, so big?! No, so dirty.... |
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Post by gigi on Jul 19, 2008 0:15:15 GMT 1
When in the USA, I read this joke in an issue of Playboy: So did you read the magazine for the jokes then? Most men read it for the articles. You know, the articles that have the three staples running through the middle of them...  Hahahahaha... ;D |
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Post by Bonobo on Nov 25, 2008 0:42:14 GMT 1
Poland denies Barack Obama cannibal 'joke'
Poland has been forced to deny its foreign minister 'joked' that President-Elect Barack Obama's grandparents were cannibals.
By Matthew Day in Warsaw
Last Updated: 2:30PM GMT 18 Nov 2008
In an episode that could potentially strain relations between Warsaw and Washington, Radek Sikorski, an Oxford-educated politician who has lived in the US, was reported to have made the jibe by an opposition politician, Ryszard Czarnecki.
Writing in his blog, Mr Czarnecki, an MEP, quoted the foreign minister as saying: "Have you heard that Obama may have a Polish connection? His grandfather ate a Polish missionary."
A spokesman for the Polish foreign office conceded that Mr Sikorski had made the controversial comment, but denied that the foreign minister had intended to insult Mr Obama, whose father was Kenyan.
"Mr Sikorski did not tell a racist joke," said Piotr Paszkowski, the spokesman. "He was only giving an example of the unpalatable and racist 'jokes' that surround President Elect Obama."
Donald Tusk, the Polish prime minister, has made no comment on the affair. It appears that Mr Sikorski's position is not under threat despite calls from opposition politicians for an investigation to deter if the foreign minister broke anti-racism laws.
The derogatory comment about Mr Obama's family may also have become common staple in Polish political circles. Wojciech Olejniczak, the leader of Poland's main Left-wing party, the SLD, alleged that he first heard it from Jaroslaw Kaczynski, a Right-wing former prime minister and twin brother of the Polish president, Lech Kaczynski.
Poland: Racist Flyers Given to Children in a Catholic Church
Saturday, November 15th, 2008
by Sylwia Presley
Global Voices Online, MA
One of the Catholic churches in Poznañ, Poland's fifth largest city,
generated a lot of online buzz yesterday, when the media published
articles about a religious flyer printed by a Catholic weekly Ma³y
GoϾ Niedzielny and distributed to children. On the flyer's cover,
there is a quote from the Bible - "A lamp without oil is dark, a
human without a prayer, too." Right above it is a drawing of a black
child, who is saying: "What a pity that the prayer does not brighten
the skin." Sylwia Presley reviews the buzz.
One of the Catholic churches in Poznañ, Poland's fifth largest city,
generated a lot of online buzz yesterday, when the media (POL)
published articles about a religious flyer printed by a Catholic
weekly Ma³y Goœæ Niedzielny and distributed to children. On the
flyer's cover, there is a quote from the Bible - "A lamp without oil
is dark, a human without a prayer, too." Right above it is a drawing
of a black child, who is saying: "What a pity that the prayer does
not brighten the skin."
The chief editor Gabriela Szulik, when confronted (POL) with the
fact, responded:
It's a mistake, an unfortunate one. We had no intention to offend
anyone, because we are not racist. The thought that this can carry
racist meaning does not even enter my mind; I simply have no
associations of the kind.
Later on, she responded to allegations of racism with a promise of
an online statement, also referring to the company's involvement in
charity work in Rwanda and their article about Zambia.
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 14, 2008 22:02:02 GMT 1
Arlen Specter's Polish Jokes 'Offensive'
NewsMax.com, FL Saturday, December 13, 2008
When Pennsylvania Congressman Jack Murtha recently said many of his home staters are "racist" and "rednecks," he may have been referring to the state's longtime U.S. senator.
The New York Post's Page 6 reports that Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa.,
used the occasion of a public luncheon Friday to lighten up the crowd by telling Polish jokes.
Specter was speaking before the influential Commonwealth Club, a
Pennsylvania Republican group meeting in New York's Rainbow Room, when he began his opening act.
The senator queried his audience if anyone present was Polish.
Reportedly, about 10 people raised their hands.
Apparently callous to their feelings, Specter let loose with a stream
of Polish jokes. The Post said he recounted the old one about a
person who tells another person that he knows a good Polish joke. The man responds, "Hey careful, I'm Polish!" Specter delivered the
punchline: "That's OK, I'll tell it more slowly."
A member of the stunned audience told the Post that Specter's jokes were "insensitive. "
"I was offended, and I'm not Polish," the source said.
Senator Wonders: How Do You Stop A Polish Army On Horseback?
By Hamilton Nolan
Gawker, NY
Sat Dec 13 2008
You know what never gets old? Polish jokes! You know what really never gets old? A Republican Senator telling Polish jokes to a big group including Polish people, for kicks—dumb Polack kicks, ha!
Sen. Arlen Specter, who has already defeated Chris Matthews without throwing a single punch, decided to "warm up the crowd" at a Republican event in Manhattan last night:
A witness reports Specter began by asking if anyone in the room was Polish. About 10 guests out of hundreds there raised their hands. Specter deemed the number insignificant and forged ahead with some supposedly funny Polish jokes, including the old one about the man who interrupted him once, saying, "Hey, careful. I'm Polish!" Specter said he responded, "That's OK - I'll tell it more slowly." Specter also told two other tasteless jokes in the same Polish vein.
Arlen Specter would never make it out of Greenpoint alive. [P6; Racist answer to headline: "Turn off the carousel." No Arlen did not ask that specifically, AS FAR AS WE KNOW.
You can reach Senator Arlen Specter here: specter.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm
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Post by valpomike on Dec 15, 2008 4:03:32 GMT 1
A joke is just a joke, and most time, not meant to hurt anyone. People have been telling me Polish jokes all my life. Most people like to joke, unless it is on them. I can take any joke, if it is to be just a joke.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Dec 15, 2008 4:05:55 GMT 1
Some times joke of another color are hard, and can upset some. Life is to short, to let jokes hurt you, or anyone. Whites tell black jokes and blacks tell white jokes, but that's life.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 17, 2008 21:02:57 GMT 1
A joke is just a joke, and most time, not meant to hurt anyone. People have been telling me Polish jokes all my life. Most people like to joke, unless it is on them. I can take any joke, if it is to be just a joke. Mike Yet, the senator has apologised. December 15, 2008
Dear Members of the Polish American Congress and Polonia:
Today I received a personal telephone call from Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter regarding the Polish jokes he delivered during a luncheon in New York City. Senator Specter told me that he regrets these inappropriate statements referencing the Polish people and asked that I offer his sincere apology to the Polish American community. Senator Specter himself traces his family history to Eastern Europe. He said he understands that the remarks were unnecessary and offensive and that this incident brings about another opportunity for all Americans to be more conscience and respectful of the accomplishments which continue to be made by all groups that make up the great ethnic mosaic of America.
During my conversation with Senator Specter, he said that he prepared an apology letter and asked that I forward this letter to all members of the Polish American community and that they forward it to family members and friends.
Michael Blichasz, President
Polish American Congress
Eastern Pennsylvania District
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 19, 2009 10:02:31 GMT 1
It seems racism holds strong in America. www.inquisitr.com/18341/new-york-post-cartoon/New York Post published this cartoon.  Controversy is brewing over a New York Post cartoon that some believe ties this week’s chimp attack to President Barack Obama in a racially offensive fashion.
The cartoon, created by Sean Delonas and printed in Wednesday’s New York Post, shows police shooting a chimp dead, then saying: “They’ll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill.”
Chimp Attack Connection
The image is presumably related to an incident in Stamford, Connecticut on Monday in which a chimpanzee escaped a woman’s home and attacked her friend. Officers ended up shooting and killing the animal.
The caption in Delonas’ New York Post cartoon is being interpreted by some as a reference to Obama, since — while he didn’t actually author it — he was the driving force behind the recently passed stimulus bill. The Rev. Al Sharpton tells the Associated Press the image is “troubling at best, given the historic racist attacks of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys.” Sharpton also called upon the Post to clarify its intentions with the drawing.
NY Post Chimp Cartoon Response
The New York Post countered Sharpton’s statement and declared it was standing behind the cartoon. The publication’s editor-in-chief issued the following response:
“The cartoon is a clear parody of a current news event, to wit the shooting of a violent chimpanzee in Connecticut. It broadly mocks Washington’s efforts to revive the economy. Again, Al Sharpton reveals himself as nothing more than a publicity opportunist.”
Cartoonist Sean Delonas went on to call Sharpton’s accusations “absolutely friggin’ ridiculous” during a phone interview with CNN Wednesday afternoon.
“Do you really think I’m saying Obama should be shot? I didn’t see that in the cartoon,” he said. “It’s about the economic stimulus bill. If you’re going to make that about anybody, it would be [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi, which it’s not.”Hey, guys, is it racism already or just joking in the eyes of Americans? |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 5, 2009 19:48:38 GMT 1
Many here in the U.S.A. have a black white idea, not me, but many.
If we needed a black leader, I just wish we got a good one, to lead, not just take instruction from the party, without any ideas of his own.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 5, 2009 22:42:10 GMT 1
Many here in the U.S.A. have a black white idea, not me, but many. If we needed a black leader, I just wish we got a good one, to lead, not just take instruction from the party, without any ideas of his own. Mike All leaders take instructions from their parties. I am sure Bush did too. The world has become too complex for one man to cover all matters. He needs advisors` help. |
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Post by valpomike on Mar 6, 2009 2:20:49 GMT 1
Yes, but many, unlike him, have some of there own ideas, he does not.
Could it be he can't think for himself.
Look what he has done with the stock market.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 17, 2009 19:34:30 GMT 1
Zimbabwe: Poland - Wild, Wild Hell for Players
Fanuel Viriri
28 February 2009
THE Polish league - the soft landing for desperate Zimbabwe footballers is no longer so rosy for local players, who have a share of monkey chants and bananas tossed at them.
Zimbabwe international centre back, Dickson Choto gave details of how he has encountered racism in Poland, in a documentary made by the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC).
The 27-year-old has been turning out for Legia Warsaw, in the last five years, after breaking into the Polish league in 2002. Choto has previously played for the defunct Darryn T Africa, which was owned by Polish coach Wieslaw Grabowski. Several local players are joining the Polish league enmasse.
But the BBC Sports Editor, Mihr Bose said in the documentary: "Racism may never be fully eradicated from football, but what I found during an investigation into the problem in Poland was truly shocking.
"One evening, as myself, my cameraman and producer were going about central Warsaw filming our piece for Inside Sport, we were approached by a skinhead, who said he was a Legia fan and made it clear that he was a racist and keen to broadcast his view.
"As I interviewed him he told me to go back to my country, meaning India, the land of my birth. He would not look me, in the eye as we spoke and at the end of my interview, refused to shake my hand."
Bose said he was made very welcome at Legia Warsaw. But there were areas of the ground he was told he could not go into because of the colour of his skin.
He added that this was confirmed, when he met Dickson Choto, the Zimbabwean international, who plays for Legia Warsaw.
Before the meeting Choto had spent some time watching his teammates training. This could have been a training session anywhere -- people of different colours united by football.
"But, as we walked round the stadium, Choto pointed to a stand where his friends and family were not welcome because of the colour of their skin."
Choto advised Bose that he should not go there as he would not be safe.
Then Choto said he also had his share of monkey chants and bananas being tossed at him. But these days this usually happened more at away matches.
Worse still, Choto said when he reacted to such racism on the field of play, Polish football authorities called him to a disciplinary hearing, where the opposition manager would declare he did not hear the chants, despite these being heard loud enough and clear to be heard by Dickson's wife, who would be at home watching their matches on television.
Bose went to a Legia Warsaw home match at the Polish Army Stadium, where the team fielded black players without any visible problems, although he was not able to go anywhere near the stand, which takes up a whole side of the ground, where the "ultras" gather.
Choto said that Poland was not ready to host Euro 2012.
Although Polish competition organisers accept there is a problem at league level, they say national team supporters do not display racist behaviour, despite photographic evidence suggesting the contrary.
The organisers, however, are confident that 2012 will pass without incident. Legia Warsaw is currently the home of former Monomotapa striker Takesure Chinyama.
Two Zimbabwe internationals, Method Mwanjali and the reigning Soccer Star of the Year Evans Chikwaikwai are undergoing trials at the same club.
Clemence Matawu, the 2006 Soccer King, who is trying his luck at Legia had a change of heart and decided to join TSPBB, in deal brokered by Grabowski.
Herbert d....k had a stint at Legia Warsaw while Leo Kurauzvione and Patrick Daka played in the Polish league. It is however one of the easiest leagues for the local players to break into European football.allafrica.com/stories/200903020734.html
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 13, 2009 16:32:08 GMT 1
Poland's math pupils learn how to drown Turks
thenews.pl
10.04.2009
"How would you place Christians and Turks on a sinking ship so that only the latter drowned?", reads a problem in a math textbook for Poland's primary school pupils.
"On board a sinking ship there are fifteen Christians and fifteen Turks. In order to save the ship from going to the bottom, half of the crew needs to be thrown overboard. One of the Christians proposes that the whole crew form a circle and every ninth person jump overboard. How should the Christians place themselves so that only the Turks are drowned?"reads a problem, quoted the lay Catholic newspaper Tygodnik Powszechny.
The rather controversial problem appeares in The Mathematical Miniatures for Primary Schools, a manual for second to twelfth grade students who want to participate in the International Mathematical Kangaroo competition. The book was published in 2004 by Aksjomat Publishing House from the northern city of Torun and has already been translated into English, German, French and Russian.
"We did not try to exhort anyone to hate. What mattered to us was the mathematical model – the historical context was irrelevant. In order to solve the problem one needs to be acquainted with principles Maths, not the ways of murdering Turks," said co-author and publisher of the manual Piotr Nodzynski, naively.
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Racist Polish school puzzle sparks controversy
MOSCOW, April 10 (RIA Novosti) - A new Polish mathematics schoolbook has sparked nationwide outrage over a racist conundrum, in which students are asked to calculate how to drown more Turks than Christians, national media reported on Friday.
The problem reads: "A boat caught in a storm and about to sink has 15 Christians and 15 Turks on board. To save the boat from sinking, half of the people in the boat must jump overboard. One of the Christians suggests that everyone stand in line and every ninth jumps overboard. How should the Christians stand so that only the Turks drown?"
The problem has angered parents as well as Polish organizations against race hate.
The chairman of the Association Against Anti-Semitism and Xenophobia, Jerzy Jedlicki, said the textbook must never fall into the hands of children, because of its racist views.
The puzzle is a variation of the Josephus problem, which dates back to the first century.
According to Jedlicki, there is a growing tendency in Poland to encourage nationalist sentiment in children, and promote the idea that ethnic Poles should have more rights than those of other religions or nationalities.
"Such ideas form a false understanding in children's minds, which later grows into hatred and discrimination, " Jedlicki said.
The authors of the textbook have defended the puzzle. One of the authors, Piotr Nodzynski, said it is an innocent mathematical example without malicious intent.
"None of the authors wanted to promote hatred," Nodzynski said. "For me the main goal was to show a mathematical model. It is possible that the task lacks information showing that the scenario is unrealistic. But this is about mathematics, and not about killing Turks."
Nodzynski said that the textbook has been published in English, German, French and Russian and is still on sale in bookstores.
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Post by Bonobo on May 29, 2009 20:36:43 GMT 1
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Post by locopolaco on May 30, 2009 7:13:34 GMT 1
Nationalist-fascist German party NPD advertises its programme by putting such posters: Stop the invasion of Poles! that's a funny graphic as in fact the germans are the crows. ;D ;D |
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