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Post by Bonobo on Dec 19, 2010 22:38:51 GMT 1
In the beginning he was looking for a way to make him more potent in the bedroom because his mother-in-law was constantly complaining about her lack of grandchildren. He was told to rub hot peppers on his genitals by some of his tribesmen to make him more virile. I thought it played nicely into your "situation"  (sigh) I had a vague feeling it was sth like that. But the scene lacks logic, imho. The guy rubs hot peppers on and feels nothing till his wife starts the job??? That`s a version for simpletons.  I read more about the film - Gibson was critisized for presenting many historical lies anout Maya culture. Tim, I didn`t know you like such brutal films. |
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Post by uncltim on Dec 20, 2010 2:54:32 GMT 1
Dried pepper oil doesn't become "active" untill it encounters moisture. defensive pepper spray affects eyes, sinus, lungs, etc.
The film has many layers Bo. Yes, brutality is unsettling, it is also real and not as uncommon as we would like. I am not as disturbed by it as many because I've seen first-hand death and accept the ugly process that it can sometimes be. Don't be mistaken, I don't like killing for sport or causing needless suffering. True cruelty is wholly unacceptable to me. The first time I slaughtered a hog had a profound effect on me. Unsettling, but not particularly negative. When I drive past a farm with cattle or any other domesticated animals I consider their fate and perhaps see them differently than the casual observer might. Not all education is happy, clean, and pleasant. just necessary.
If you can see past the visual aspect of the movie and into the true lesson, you will see that the story is about the smallest tribal group in humanity. A man and woman. You can replace the Mayans and Spanish with any cultural clash throughout history and the story wouldn't change much. I view the movie as a love story about two people who attempt to survive together as the world around them falls apart. Its a beautiful story in a ugly setting.
I've always liked Mel Gibson films. He doesn't worry about political correctness or other such things. He is a true film-maker. Did you happen to see The Passion of the Christ? I would be curious to to know your thoughts on it.
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 21, 2010 0:17:56 GMT 1
Dried pepper oil doesn't become "active" untill it encounters moisture. defensive pepper spray affects eyes, sinus, lungs, etc. And the penis on its top is also made of mucous membrane. Where does the guy rub the pepper ointment so that it works only after his wife starts blowjob? It is still illogical. Aaah, now I see it. I haven`t, with an exception of Braveheart. Neither does he about history. I find it too disturbing to fully appreciate the films. Hmm, we saw it with my class. It isn`t a film that I would like to watch again. |
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Post by uncltim on Dec 21, 2010 0:51:36 GMT 1
I don't know what else to tell you about the "pepper" incident. Perhaps some scientific experimentation during one of your marathon love-making sessions is in order? ;D Please inform us of your findings. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  I am uncertain of the historical inaccuracies you mention. I never really viewed it as a documentary so I didn't really pay much attention to it. I know the Jewish had a spasm when Passion was released. They tend have a fit whenever something isn't portraying them as helpless victims anyway, so I just ignored it. The parts they were most upset about were really commentary on human nature and governing structure more than just about "Jews" per se. I came away from the movie with a more clear understanding of the saviors suffering. I am grateful for that. |
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