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Post by Bonobo on Sept 19, 2010 22:51:44 GMT 1
In regular intervals of time, Jesus is proposed as an honorary King of Poland. Article from 2006 WARSAW, Poland — Lawmakers have drawn up a resolution naming Jesus Christ as the honorary king of Poland, but have failed to win support from the country's powerful Roman Catholic church.
Lawmakers for the ruling Law and Justice party and League of Polish Families as well as the opposition Peasants Party back the resolution, said Szymon Ruman, spokesman for parliamentary speaker Marek Jurek.
However, the proposal currently has the support of only 46 members in the 460-seat parliament, well short of the necessary 231 votes to pass. Ruman said the resolution would likely be voted on sometime after Jan. 1.
Backing from the church in this strongly Catholic country would be crucial for building support for the proposal, but on Wednesday several bishops criticized it, and said parliament should stay out of religious affairs.
"Let parliament deal with passing better laws that we need," Gdansk Archbishop Tadeusz Goclowski said.
"This kind of action, although it may stem from good will, sounds a bit like propaganda," said bishop Tadeusz Pieronk.
Today`s marchof the supporters of the idea:     |
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Post by tufta on Sept 20, 2010 5:03:30 GMT 1
In regular intervals of time, Jesus is proposed as an honorary King of Poland. isn't he one already? ;D ;D |
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 20, 2010 20:46:18 GMT 1
In regular intervals of time, Jesus is proposed as an honorary King of Poland. isn't he one already? ;D ;D Formally, not. Practically, also not, We have the Queen - Divine Mother, but not the King.
Police say around 1000 people demonstrated in Warsaw, Sunday, calling for a GM crops ban, the continued ban on same sex unions, an end to Sunday trading: and for Jesus to be made King of Poland.
The mostly elderly demonstrators, some wearing long red gowns with a white cross emblazoned on the front, were from the Movement for the Sovereignty of Poland, a group which previously made headlines when they protested against the singer Madonna’s concert in Warsaw last year.
Chanting “woe betide those who forbid Jesus to be King of Poland” the protesters - which they say reached around 3,000 in number - marched from the Parliament building through the central streets of Warsaw, passing the Presidential Palace to say mass at St John’s.
A statement by the movement says: “The only hope for a change to the current situation in our homeland - and to be released from the hands of numerous enemies who constantly want to destroy it - and a renewal of the moral and religious life of the nation, is to enthrone Jesus Christ as King of Poland.”
The demand has historical precedent, say the protestors. The Virgin Mary was declared honorary queen of Poland by King Jan Kazimierz, over 350 years ago.
In 2006, 46 MPs from the Law and Justice party and the League of Polish Families submitted a motion in the Lower House of Parliament to make Jesus Poland’s king.
Although demanding that Jesus should be sovereign of Poland was the main aim of the march, the Movement for the Sovereignty of Poland also warned of the weakness of the Polish armed forces and of the dangers of the Lisbon Treaty.
On the march was 79 year-old far-right activist Kazimierz Switon, who attracted international media attention when he was arrested in 1999 for possession of explosives during his protest against crosses being removed from outside the Auschwitz death camp museum site, placed their to commemorate a visit by John Paul II.
Referring to the Smolensk cross, which had been removed from in front of the President’s residence last Thursday and placed in the Presidential Chapel, Switon said on Sunday: “The palace should be closed to President Komorowski and made into a museum for the Kaczynski brothers.”
President Lech Kaczynski died in the April 10 air disaster in western Russia.Here is a comment I fully agree with:
Karmenu of Malta
20/09/2010 12:52:11
Instead of making so much public fuss about wanting to declare Jesus Christ king of Poland, one would be well advised to direct all of one's energy towards personal and social sanctity. Such public declarations do not help a lot in our struggle towards holiness. Rather they may sometimes make us lose sight of our goal, i.e. to make sure that our will is at one with His at all times and in all our choices. Being a practising and convinced Catholic myself, I would like to see all people reserve more of their energy for the purpose of obeying His commandments and practising the virtues; and may we spend less energy and time on symbolisms. |
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Post by jeanne on Sept 21, 2010 0:04:52 GMT 1
Ummm...I think Jesus himself said that His kingdom was "not of this world..."
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Post by tufta on Sept 21, 2010 7:49:58 GMT 1
Ummm...I think Jesus himself said that His kingdom was "not of this world..." Exactly. Yet, in Poland hisotrically existed a peculiar tradition of 'intronization' of Jesus Christ as a king of Poland. It has taken place already three times, in 1920, in 1921 and in 1950 (or 1951) by Cardinal Stefan Wyszyński. The last one in secret as Stalinism was at it's height and open ceremonies would not be possible. I thought the traditition was born out of frustration - we hadn't own 'king' (government) so we intronizied Jesus as Poland's king. In independent Poland I don't see how this tradition may surivive. Indeed it has no support of the Polish Episcopate and the initiative is carried out by a very small group of really strange people. |
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 27, 2010 21:34:40 GMT 1
and the initiative is carried out by a very small group of really strange people. Fanatics? |
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Post by tufta on Sept 28, 2010 7:32:02 GMT 1
and the initiative is carried out by a very small group of really strange people. Fanatics? Fanatics or people which don't have other ways of building their well-being, used cynically by Mr. Chairman. |
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