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Post by jeanne on Mar 26, 2008 1:57:14 GMT 1
I have a DVD of the CBS movie entitled 'Pope John Paul II' starring Jon Voight. In the early part of the movie when the young Karol Wojtyla is contemplating becoming a priest, he is shown sitting at a desk, reading a book and thinking the words:"All that is harsh and difficult I want for myself, and all that is gentle and sweet for thee."
Does anyone know where this quote is from? It seems to be significant to the story by the way it is presented.
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 26, 2008 11:22:43 GMT 1
I have a DVD of the CBS movie entitled 'Pope John Paul II' starring Jon Voight. In the early part of the movie when the young Karol Wojtyla is contemplating becoming a priest, he is shown sitting at a desk, reading a book and thinking the words:"All that is harsh and difficult I want for myself, and all that is gentle and sweet for thee." Does anyone know where this quote is from? It seems to be significant to the story by the way it is presented. Hmm, I know major Polish literature quite well. I have never encountered this sentence. Isn`t it a sentence from Wojty³a`s works he published later on? His dramas, for example? |
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Post by jeanne on Mar 26, 2008 23:51:23 GMT 1
Hmm, I know major Polish literature quite well. I have never encountered this sentence. Isn`t it a sentence from Wojty³a`s works he published later on? His dramas, for example? I don't think so because in the movie he is reading from a book. At that point in his life he wouldn't have published anything. Earlier in the movie he had quoted Cyprian Kamil Norbert (Norbet? - not sure of spelling). Could it be from his writings? |
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Post by jeanne on Mar 29, 2008 1:33:11 GMT 1
Oops...I had his name wrong. I learned from the thread on storks that the poet's name is Cyprian Kamil Norwid.
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 29, 2008 21:30:05 GMT 1
Oops...I had his name wrong. I learned from the thread on storks that the poet's name is Cyprian Kamil Norwid. No wonder I didn`t know the quote. As I said, I don`t like Norwid. I think a person who deliberately peruses Norwid`s poetry is in a really depressed mood. hahahaha This could be partly the case of Wojtyla who decided to become a priest during the horrible times of the German occupation of Poland. But, wait. Wasn`t that another author? I have found this quote as belonging to St. John of the Cross. Beloved, all that is harsh and difficult I want for myself,
and all that is gentle and sweet for thee. thinkexist.com/quotes/st._john_of_the_cross/ |
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Post by jeanne on Mar 30, 2008 11:56:49 GMT 1
Oops...I had his name wrong. I learned from the thread on storks that the poet's name is Cyprian Kamil Norwid. No wonder I didn`t know the quote. As I said, I don`t like Norwid. I think a person who deliberately peruses Norwid`s poetry is in a really depressed mood. hahahaha This could be partly the case of Wojtyla who decided to become a priest during the horrible times of the German occupation of Poland. But, wait. Wasn`t that another author? I have found this quote as belonging to St. John of the Cross. Beloved, all that is harsh and difficult I want for myself,
and all that is gentle and sweet for thee. thinkexist.com/quotes/st._john_of_the_cross/Hurray! Thank you Bonobo! Actually, I have a volume of the collected works of St. John of the Cross, but as you can tell by my ignorance, I have not found the time to make my way through it. The link where you found it does not give the source, but now, knowing the author, I can look for the work myself. |
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Post by jeanne on Dec 24, 2013 0:46:30 GMT 1
No wonder I didn`t know the quote. As I said, I don`t like Norwid. I think a person who deliberately peruses Norwid`s poetry is in a really depressed mood. hahahaha This could be partly the case of Wojtyla who decided to become a priest during the horrible times of the German occupation of Poland. But, wait. Wasn`t that another author? I have found this quote as belonging to St. John of the Cross. Beloved, all that is harsh and difficult I want for myself,
and all that is gentle and sweet for thee. thinkexist.com/quotes/st._john_of_the_cross/Hurray! Thank you Bonobo! Actually, I have a volume of the collected works of St. John of the Cross, but as you can tell by my ignorance, I have not found the time to make my way through it. The link where you found it does not give the source, but now, knowing the author, I can look for the work myself. I find it amusing that when my daughter was in public high school, she read works by St. John of the Cross in her Spanish class because he is considered one of Spain's greatest writers. It's ironic since teachers are not supposed to talk about religion in public schools... |
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Post by jeanne on Feb 6, 2015 2:54:43 GMT 1
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 5, 2015 21:11:12 GMT 1
But that wasn`t talking about religion, was it? They only read the text, without discussing it, I suppose. Is reading the Bible prohibited in Am schools?
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Post by jeanne on Oct 5, 2015 21:27:14 GMT 1
But that wasn`t talking about religion, was it? They only read the text, without discussing it, I suppose. Is reading the Bible prohibited in Am schools? I'm sure they did discuss the text because it was in Spanish class and the teacher (who was an excellent teacher, by the way) would want to make sure the students were understanding the Spanish language. It's hard for me to answer if reading the Bible is prohibited throughout the U.S. because local areas have control over many aspects of their local schools, not the federal government. I know it was frowned upon in my area, but only recently, reading the Bible as "literature" is being tolerated because kids have been complaining that upon arrival at college they know so little about it and there are many, many references to it in the things they read there. (I guess that shows they aren't getting much of it in their family/personal lives either!) |
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 5, 2015 21:34:08 GMT 1
I constantly forget that Poland is the size of California.  I realised it during Am student`s lecture about his native state in our school. |
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Post by jeanne on Oct 5, 2015 21:41:26 GMT 1
I constantly forget that Poland is the size of California. I realised it during Am student`s lecture about his native state in our school. Yup...the U.S. is a little larger than Poland! You could ask that American student if he/she read the Bible in U.S. schools! |
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 5, 2015 21:45:12 GMT 1
I constantly forget that Poland is the size of California. I realised it during Am student`s lecture about his native state in our school. Yup...the U.S. is a little larger than Poland! You could ask that American student if he/she read the Bible in U.S. schools! I am sure he didn`t. We talked about music and he said he prefered black metal groups which are not fond of the Bible! |
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Post by jeanne on Oct 5, 2015 21:49:04 GMT 1
Yup...the U.S. is a little larger than Poland! You could ask that American student if he/she read the Bible in U.S. schools! I am sure he didn`t. We talked about music and he said he prefered black metal groups which are not fond of the Bible! That doesn't mean his school didn't want him to read the Bible as part of his education. If kids only did the schoolwork they enjoy, there wouldn't be much education happening in that school! |
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 5, 2015 22:02:39 GMT 1
Yes, true. Poor students, can`t be choosers.
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