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Post by valpomike on Jan 12, 2009 21:41:35 GMT 1
I know that Vodka and bagels, are just two things that Poland gave the world, but what are some other great things given us from Poland.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Jan 13, 2009 19:56:51 GMT 1
Can't anyone help on this, I know there must many others.
Mike
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Post by franciszek on Jan 13, 2009 22:22:05 GMT 1
Lech Walesa the voice of the everyday person on the street
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Post by tufta on Feb 3, 2009 17:20:12 GMT 1
If you mean something like a trade mark of Poland, other then great food, and appealing to the so called masses in a consumptionist society then it is surely the yachts. Some of the best yachts are from Poland. Read more www.business.gov.pl/Yacht,building,industry,133.html Otherwise - it gets difficult as most of the Polish trade marks belong to the world of music, archeology, astronomy, medicine.
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Post by tufta on Feb 3, 2009 17:29:25 GMT 1
oh, something i just reminded - Do you know who is the author of the most often cited scientific paper ever? A Pole
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Post by valpomike on Feb 3, 2009 17:58:52 GMT 1
Either Karol Olszewski, or Zygmunt Wroblewski, or Stefan Rolewicz. Which do you think?
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 4, 2009 2:20:07 GMT 1
poland gave the world THE WORLD. copenicus (kopernik) anyone? mike, are you sure bagels are from PL? never seen them until i got here.
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Post by valpomike on Feb 4, 2009 2:33:16 GMT 1
Loco,
Yes, bagels did come from Poland.
Tufta,
Were any of the names I gave you correct.
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 4, 2009 2:50:18 GMT 1
Loco, Yes, bagels did come from Poland. Tufta, Were any of the names I gave you correct. Mike that's strange as they are not a staple in poland. there are more baguettes in poland then bagels.
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Post by tufta on Feb 4, 2009 13:09:31 GMT 1
Loco, Yes, bagels did come from Poland. Tufta, Were any of the names I gave you correct. Mike Karol Olszewski, or Zygmunt Wroblewski, or Stefan Rolewicz? The first two are known to any child in Poland who started the chemistry and physics course. The last name - I am not sure, it rings the bell but I will not be able to recognize it without teh google. I googled the most cited scientific paper. The author's name is Piotr Chomczyński , title 'Single-Step Method of RNA Isolation by Acid Guanidinium Thiocyanate Phenol Chloroform Extraction' ;D I guess he invented just a good method of RNA extraction, not quite a Copernican revolution but anyway
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Post by tufta on Feb 4, 2009 13:35:53 GMT 1
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Post by valpomike on Feb 4, 2009 17:53:44 GMT 1
Where is the women who sets in that chair?
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 4, 2009 20:47:31 GMT 1
Not quite. It`s a monument next to Kantor`s house or museum. Sth like that.
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Post by tufta on Feb 5, 2009 13:50:28 GMT 1
Not quite. It`s a monument next to Kantor`s house or museum. Sth like that. and IKEA has this kind of ad near to where I live - a huge, really huge chair ;D
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Post by tufta on Feb 5, 2009 13:54:06 GMT 1
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Post by gigi on Feb 5, 2009 14:29:38 GMT 1
Ludwik Hirszfeld gave the world the knowledge about the blood groups and serologic conflict. Very interesting! Thanks for the link.
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Post by valpomike on Feb 5, 2009 16:26:13 GMT 1
Now that is something also to be proud of, be proud to be Polish or Polish-American. Who more is there? What kind of inventions came from Poland? This is great stuff, keep it up.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 5, 2009 23:31:27 GMT 1
Hmm, I am still thinking.... Are we allowed to present Poles of Jewish origin? Or Jewish Poles? Isn`t it sort of depriving Jews of their great men and pretending they were ethnic Poles? Ludwik Hirszfeld gave the world the knowledge about the blood groups and serologic conflict. Very interesting! Thanks for the link. Yes, I must say I didn`t know about him. Especially these facts are fascinating: Looks like a noble man. After the end of the war Hirszfeld and his wife returned to Warsaw, where he established a Polish serum institute modeled after the Ehrlich Institute for Experimental Therapy in Frankfurt. He soon became deputy director and scientific head of the State Hygiene Institute in Warsaw and, in 1924, professor there. In 1931 he was named full professor at the University of Warsaw and served on many international boards. After the occupation of Poland by the German army Hirszfeld was dismissed as a "non-Aryan" from the Hygiene Institute but, through the protection of friends, managed to do further scientific work at home until February 1941; it was, however, almost impossible for him to publish.
On 20 February 1941 Hirszfeld was forced to move into the Warsaw ghetto with his wife and daughter. There he organized anti-epidemic measures and vaccination campaigns against typhus and typhoid, as well as conducting secret medical courses. In 1943 he and his family fled the ghetto and were able to survive underground through using false names and continually changing their hiding place; his daughter died of tuberculosis in the same year.
When a part of Poland was liberated in 1944, Hirszfeld immediately collaborated in the establishment of the University of Lublin and became prorector of the university. In 1945 he became director of the Institute for Medical Microbiology at Wrocław and dean of the medical faculty. He taught at the institute, now affiliated with the Polish Academy of Sciences and named after him, until his death.
Hirszfeld received many honors, including honorary doctorates from the universities of Prague (1950) and Zurich (1951). He wrote almost 400 works in German, French, English, and Polish, many in collaboration with other well-known scholars and not a few with his wife.
Hirszfeld and von Dungern were responsible for naming the blood groups A, B, AB, and O; previously they were known as groups I, II, III, and IV. He proposed the A and B designations for the agglutinins. In 1910-1911 Hirszfeld discovered the heritability of blood groups and with this discovery established serological paternity exclusion. During World War I he and his wife wrote works on sero-anthropology, which brought forth fundamental findings on the racial composition of recent and historical peoples. According to his so-called Pleiades theory of blood groups, the other groups probably developed from the archaic O group in the course of evolution.
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 5, 2009 23:45:24 GMT 1
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Post by valpomike on Feb 5, 2009 23:49:25 GMT 1
Any person from Poland, and some of the inventions also. I want to learn more on this. And if you tell where they came from and the dates of there actions, please.
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 6, 2009 4:24:35 GMT 1
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Post by tufta on Feb 6, 2009 10:28:47 GMT 1
Now that is something also to be proud of, be proud to be Polish or Polish-American. Who more is there? What kind of inventions came from Poland? This is great stuff, keep it up. Mike It is impossible to name in a short presentation everything "Poles gave to the world". However I am now getting an idea what information you are looking for - these are easy to describe inventions, right? They are also much more numerous then I am able to remember, but here's what I do at the moment - first of all to remember is an author of very numerous inventions Jan Szczepanik. Best known for the invention of first modern bullet proof vest and foundamentals of television. Ignacy Łukasiewicz - oil industry -oil destillation, kerosene lamp ESR blood test or Biernacki reaction , Krwawicz - a device to remove a catharact, Pieńkowski - neon lamp vitamins - Kazimierz Funk, Kazimierz Pruszyński - first motion picture camera ( and the above mentioned Jan Szczepanik provided the first device to record sound on film tape) Tadeusz Sendzimir - steel galvanization. No modern cars, machinerr, refrigirators without it. Władysław Tryliński - bulit the first welded steel bridge in Europe, invented 'trylinka'. I miss English word, look here pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trylinkaalso invented the reinforced concrete railroad ties, Wolfke - fundamentals of holography Porowski - blue laser also the following, but I don't rmemeber the names - you can find them Michael and tell us pneumatic torpedo gun periscope turning around 360 degrees mine detector car springs car windscreen wipers precision thermometer brain cells from stem cells, and of course the best ad of a condom, still widely used - 'your heart will break first', btw. Konstanty Ciołkowski, who invented a spaceship and basics of rocketry was a son of a Pole and Russian woman. Igor Sikorski - inventor of a modern helicopter was of Polish heritage as well.
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Post by tufta on Feb 6, 2009 10:34:56 GMT 1
[ Are we allowed to present Poles of Jewish origin? Or Jewish Poles? Isn`t it sort of depriving Jews of their great men and pretending they were ethnic Poles? We are not entilted to outline anyone's ethnic background. There's virtually nothing like 'ethnic Pole'. It was the German Nazists with their Nurnberg laws who checked the past three generation to call someone 'not a Jew'. This is crazy. Ludwik Hirszfeld was a Pole of Jewsih faith who changed it for Catholic. But even without that he was as Polish as you and me.
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Post by valpomike on Feb 6, 2009 17:26:57 GMT 1
Great stuff, only I don't care for the Polish people being called Poles. He in the U.S.A. it is the start of a Polish joke, and we don't need those.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 6, 2009 22:27:03 GMT 1
lol. but i have been a couple of times, long, long ago. no bagels (those sure look pretzely). No, Loco. They are bagels. In Krakow they are called obwarzanki, but my mother, who used to live in Kazimierz district before, during and after the war always called them bajgiels. Chcesz bajgla ? was a typical address by her. It suggests that bagels are not so much Polish as Jewish Polish. More clarification by means of images: Pretzel American bagel Krakow obwarzanek It is only partly true. Currently, Krakow has an unfinished by-pass around it. If you delay your visit till 2015, you will be able to travel around the city in any direction. We are not entilted to outline anyone's ethnic background. There's virtually nothing like 'ethnic Pole'. It was the German Nazists with their Nurnberg laws who checked the past three generation to call someone 'not a Jew'. This is crazy. Ludwik Hirszfeld was a Pole of Jewsih faith who changed it for Catholic. But even without that he was as Polish as you and me. Hmm, you still haven`t convinced me. Did you consult it with any Jewish people? Are you sure they won`t mind? Won`t they say that we, Poles, are stealing their great men??? Great stuff, only I don't care for the Polish people being called Poles. He in the U.S.A. it is the start of a Polish joke, and we don't need those. Mike Mike, Poles is all right in Poland. We will use it because it is practical and handy and we don`t care for Polish jokes. We are above it, OK? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by valpomike on Feb 7, 2009 20:59:41 GMT 1
Could be it is only me, but I don't like the people of Poland being called Poles. I does not take much more time to say Polish.
Mike
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Post by tufta on Feb 9, 2009 19:31:26 GMT 1
Great stuff, only I don't care for the Polish people being called Poles. He in the U.S.A. it is the start of a Polish joke, and we don't need those. Mike Mike, did you check the missing names of Poles behind some inventions?
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Post by tufta on Feb 9, 2009 19:40:49 GMT 1
lol. but i have been a couple of times, long, long ago. no bagels (those sure look pretzely). No, Loco. They are bagels. In Krakow they are called obwarzanki, but my mother, who used to live in Kazimierz district before, during and after the war always called them bajgiels. Chcesz bajgla ? was a typical address by her. It suggests that bagels are not so much Polish as Jewish Polish. More clarification by means of images: Pretzel www.affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/Pretzel_salted_small.jpgAmerican bagel images.teamsugar.com/files/usr/1/12981/bagel.jpgKrakow obwarzanek tylkokuchnia.blox.pl/resource/obwarzanek_krakowski1.jpgIt is only partly true. Currently, Krakow has an unfinished by-pass around it. If you delay your visit till 2015, you will be able to travel around the city in any direction. bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/5213/z5213512X.jpgHmm, you still haven`t convinced me. Did you consult it with any Jewish people? Are you sure they won`t mind? Won`t they say that we, Poles, are stealing their great men??? I have almost overlooked this under a pile of bagels and in that eternal car jam around Kraków ;D ;D ;D My answer is two-point and not a straightforward one. You are a thinking person so you deserve a special answer ;D point 1. origins of bagels in 'what all did Polish give to the word. Did you consult it with any Jewish people? Are you sure they won`t mind? Won`t they say that we, Poles, are stealing their great food?? point 2. a citation without a comment An interview with Z. Brzezinski Zbigniew Brzezinsky, a one-time national security advisor to President Carter and now a counselor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, found time to grant an interview to The Day. This American political scientist is also professor of US foreign policy at the Johns Hopkins University's Paul Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, an advisory board member of Freedom House and the Trilateral Commission (US—Europe—Japan) , and a board member of the Polish-American Freedom Foundation and the Polish- American Enterprise Fund.
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 9, 2009 22:24:33 GMT 1
My answer is two-point and not a straightforward one. You are a thinking person so you deserve a special answer ;D Ooops.... I am a special treatment person? I am afraid you are overestimating my comprehension powers now.... Hmm, I think there is a little misunderstanding or I don`t get Warsavian logic. ;D ;D ;D ;D You are using my own questions in reverse direction. But, I did actually write : In Krakow they are called obwarzanki, but my mother, who used to live in Kazimierz district before, during and after the war always called them bajgiels. Chcesz bajgla ? was a typical address by her. It suggests that bagels are not so much Polish as Jewish Polish. I think I am the wrong person to address here. ;D ;D ;D ;D [/i][/quote][/quote] And?
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Post by jeanne on Feb 9, 2009 23:32:40 GMT 1
Great stuff, only I don't care for the Polish people being called Poles. He in the U.S.A. it is the start of a Polish joke, and we don't need those. Mike Mike, 'Poles' is a noun, 'Polish' is an adjective. The two can't be used interchangeably! ;D
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