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Post by tufta on Nov 8, 2008 13:50:18 GMT 1
I thought it may be of some interest. Today's edition of 'Rzeczpospolita'daily, first page. This is a decent newspaper I read since, errrr, since ooooooh--ooooh-----oooh, or longer. „Proud and ready to die for homeland” - Poland needs patriots, say 92 % in a poll
Are we proud to be Polish and ready to die for our country? Does being a Euroepean Union member help cherishing the patriotism? Just before the Independence Day we have asked well-known and ordinary Poles, the citizens of Rzeczpospolita.
Results are building. 19 years after the Independence Day restoration as an official national holiday 82 percent surveyed correctly link it to the historical events of 11 November 1918, This is one of the most importants dates in Polish history – Poland was reborn aas an indepenent country after 123 years of occupation. The official holiday was establish in in1937, shortly before the World War II. Then in People's Republic it was condemned into oblivion.
Huge majority of the surveyed - 71 percent - would be ready to die in defense of Poland's independence. 16 percent would not, while 13 percent are not sure.
44 percent thinks EU membership does not promote cherishing patriotism by member-states citizens, 35 percent thinks it does. It is reminded however, that Poles have a positive attitude to the union. It is obvious for all –, that no country has forsaken its tradition after entering UE and national holidays are widely celebrated.
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Post by valpomike on Nov 8, 2008 16:26:44 GMT 1
Do you think the E.U. is good for Poland, if yes, why?
I would love to hear what people who live in Poland think, and why.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Nov 8, 2008 22:41:03 GMT 1
Do you think the E.U. is good for Poland, if yes, why? I would love to hear what people who live in Poland think, and why. Mike Shortly speaking. EU is OK. Reasons: Poland was a backward underdeveloped country after centuries of partitions, occupations, wars and simple indolence of Poles. It is true communism developed the country but mainly heavy industry which in the era of high technology soon became obsolete. Poland has transformed so quickly recently in result of Poles` hard work and initiative, but also thanks to the know-how, investment, law regulations and dotations which we have been receiving from EU.
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Post by valpomike on Nov 8, 2008 23:51:53 GMT 1
I want what is best for Poland and it's many great people.
Mike
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Post by tufta on Nov 9, 2008 14:56:18 GMT 1
Yes Mike, I agree with Bo , European Union is OK. But I would have rather written "It is true communism greatly hindered Poland's growth" . ;D It is much better to be inside EU than outside for Poland. But I am not fully satisfied with what EU is, and slowly but steadily it will be reformed since Central Europe has joined the organization. Most of all we need to stop the politically priviliged Paris-Berlin axis which practically directed all the union before arrival of Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary and teh Baltic states. And this axis was through this 4 years very much weakend. Next we need to change the situation we still have, that the EU is run by the beaurocratic caste which has no democratic mandate at all. And there are more things to reform, which we will slowly do. But this doesn't change the general opinion. EU is a great idea, even if it gor a bit twisted lately, idea in fact much greater and bolder than yours US of A, which was very very very easy to form compared
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Post by valpomike on Nov 10, 2008 4:26:06 GMT 1
I don't understand yet, but if it is best for Poland, than that is what I want. Can you explain again, why this is better, than Poland doing things for herself, and making her own choices.
Mike
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Post by tufta on Nov 10, 2008 13:26:05 GMT 1
I don't understand yet, but if it is best for Poland, than that is what I want. Can you explain again, why this is better, than Poland doing things for herself, and making her own choices. Mike Mike, it is not exactly parallel situation but I think you could try thinking about it just as about the state you live in, is it Illinois or Indiana, I am not sure. Can you explain why is it better that Illionois or Indiana are a member of USof A, and not doing things for themself, and making their own choices.
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Post by valpomike on Nov 10, 2008 17:11:06 GMT 1
Most of all states here in the U.S.A. do decide many things for them self, and many cities do also, within that state. But these are states not countries, like which I talk.
Mike
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