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Post by Bonobo on Mar 30, 2008 0:49:59 GMT 1
What do you consider a controvercial dish? Ozzy gave so much food to my thoughts that I decided to open a thread about such dishes. Haggis is one of them. When I tell my students how it is cooked, they make strange faces and pretend to throw up. Why? Poles also have their strange meat dishes. But let`s talk about haggis first. I've heard about haggis. As far as I know it's made of pig's liver.... ? And ? I've forgotten. Is it tasty ? There is some liver too, I suppose, but the base for this dish is a sheep`s stomache. Inside there is some stuffing from other sheep`s entrails.    Taken out of its stomache casing, the contents look like Polish black pudding.  Site about haggis www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/gazette/haggis.html |
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 30, 2008 0:57:34 GMT 1
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Post by ozzy on Mar 30, 2008 10:46:23 GMT 1
No, Unfortunately I haven't eaten it. But I'd love to!
When I was a child I had the pleasure of visiting Lithuania and I remember one, let's say controversial dish- pig's tongues. It was the speciality of the house and we all ordered them but when we found out what it was nobody dared to eat it.
Ok, but what are the strange Polish dishes ? Maybe tripe ? I'm not sure whether it is known and eaten in other countries.
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Post by franciszek on Apr 1, 2008 0:59:51 GMT 1
In England we deep fry haggis in batter it is really niceIn Scotland they will do it differently as it a traditional dish there
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 1, 2008 21:08:39 GMT 1
In England we deep fry haggis in batter it is really niceIn Scotland they will do it differently as it a traditional dish there Hmm, in batter? Do you take off the skin wrapping before? |
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 1, 2008 21:45:05 GMT 1
Here are dishes controvercial to many Poles. Half the population likes them, the other half hates. Raw meat dish   Beef tripes  Other parts, e.g., tongues or liver  Many kinds of seafood Squid  Fish eggs  Absolute horrendum, unacceptable for the majority, is frog legs.  |
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Post by valpomike on Apr 2, 2008 1:31:23 GMT 1
No head cheese, or pig's feet.
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 2, 2008 18:18:52 GMT 1
No head cheese, or pig's feet. I know pig feet. Nóżki w galarecie. They don`t serve real feet, but it is in fact meat in jelly made by boiling those feet.   I must say that this is also abominable to me, such jelly/aspic. Yuukkk! I have no idea whatsoever what head chees is. |
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Post by valpomike on Apr 2, 2008 22:16:40 GMT 1
It is a kind of cold cuts, made with leftovers. I have seen the full, real, pig's feet being served, in many place, here and there.
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 2, 2008 22:38:48 GMT 1
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Post by locopolaco on Apr 23, 2008 23:49:23 GMT 1
Here are dishes controvercial to many Poles. Half the population likes them, the other half hates. Raw meat dish that's beef tartar.. it is eaten in USA too but by not that many folks. seems most people find blood sausage (kiszka) and duck's blood soup (czernina) strange.. maybe tripe (flaki) too but i really can't think of anything else i would consider strange or unique to PL like hagis is to UK. |
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Post by Bonobo on May 25, 2008 21:37:45 GMT 1
Tell more on your foods. My wife love Polish head cheese, and I buy it in a Polish store in Chicago. Now I have to bring back some for others, also. I do care for it, but don't know much on it, like what it is made from, and types there are, and so on. What is it made of: Head cheese (AmE) or brawn (BrE) is in fact not a cheese, but rather a terrine of meat from the head of a calf or pig (sometimes a sheep or cow). It may also include meat from the feet and heart. It is usually eaten cold or at room temperature as a luncheon meat. It is sometimes also known as souse meat, particularly if pickled with vinegar. Historically the cleaned (all organs removed) head was simmered to produce a gelatin (formed from the collagen in the bone) containing any incidental meat which came off the head. The more modern method involves adding gelatin to meat, which is then cooked in a mould. In Poland, head cheese is referred to as salceson, a name possibly derived from saucisson, the French word for a type of sausage. There are several varieties of salceson which depend on the ingredients: Black Salcesson which contains blood, White Salcesson made with a mixture of seasoned meats without blood, and Ozorkowy (Tongue) Salcesson where the major meat component is tongue. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheeseMike, I like eating most organs from farm animals but I never eat salceson because of this awful jelly into which meat is immersed. yuk! Here is a recipe www.jfolse.com/recipes/meats/pork21.htm INGREDIENTS: * 1 hog head, split and cleaned * 4 pig feet, scraped and cleaned * 4 pounds pork butt * 3 cups onions, finely diced * 3 cups celery, finely diced * 2 cups bell pepper, finely diced * 1/2 cup garlic, finely diced * 2 whole bay leaves * 1 tsp dry thyme * 1/4 cup peppercorns, whole * 1/2 cup green onions, finely sliced * 1/2 cup parsley, finely diced * 1/2 cup red bell pepper, finely diced * 1/2 cup carrots, finely diced * salt and cracked black pepper to taste * 3 envelopes unflavored gelatin, dissolved METHOD: In a 4-gallon stock pot, place all of the above ingredients up to and including the whole peppercorns. Add enough water to cover the contents by 3 inches and bring to a rolling boil. Using a ladle, skim all foam and other impurities that rise to the surface during the first half hour of boiling. Continue to cook until meat is tender and pulling away from the bones, approximately 2 1/2 hours. Remove all meat from the stock pot and lay out on a flat baking pan to cool. Reserve 10 cups of the cooking stock and return to a low boil. Add all remaining ingredients, except gelatin and salt and pepper, boil for 3 minutes and remove from heat. Season to taste using salt and cracked black pepper. Add dissolved gelatin and set aside. Once meat has cooled, remove all bones and finely chop in a food processor. Place equal amounts of the meat in four trays and ladle in hot seasoned stock. The mixture should be meaty with just enough stock to gel and hold the meat together. Cover with clear wrap and place in refrigerator to set overnight. Head cheese is best eaten as an appetizer with croutons or crackers. You certainly need this:  Will you be able to purchase it in your local delicatessen??? Black head cheese has more blood than head in it  White head cheese has more head than blood  |
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Post by gigi on May 26, 2008 20:03:36 GMT 1
I think I would like to add head cheese maker to my list of worst jobs...  How do you say "No thank you, I am a vegetarian." in Polish??? |
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Post by Bonobo on May 26, 2008 20:41:22 GMT 1
I think I would like to add head cheese maker to my list of worst jobs... How do you say "No thank you, I am a vegetarian." in Polish??? Nie, dziękuję Ci, jestem wegetarianką. [nje, dzhenkooje tchi, jestem vegetarjankom] |
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Post by gigi on May 26, 2008 21:01:58 GMT 1
How do you say "No thank you, I am a vegetarian." in Polish??? Nie, dziękuję Ci, jestem wegetarianką. [nje, dzhenkooje tchi, jestem vegetarjankom] Dziękuję!!! I am not a true vegetarian, but as I indicated in another thread I am not very adventurous with meat dishes. Wouldn't it be better to be a temporary vegetarian than to offend someone by not eating the food he/she offered? Would this logic apply to drinks like vodka as well? A former co-worker told me that if you travel to Russia you either drink vodka - and drink as much as they give you - or you don't (and if you don't you need to have a good reason why). He suggested saying that you are a recovering alcoholic to avoid having to drink too much! How would this go over in Poland??? In my case, I would probably pass out on the table after two drinks. Maybe I should ask Loco's g/f for her tips... ;D |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 4, 2008 21:00:52 GMT 1
Nie, dziękuję Ci, jestem wegetarianką. [nje, dzhenkooje tchi, jestem vegetarjankom] Dziękuję!!! I am not a true vegetarian, but as I indicated in another thread I am not very adventurous with meat dishes. Wouldn't it be better to be a temporary vegetarian than to offend someone by not eating the food he/she offered? Would this logic apply to drinks like vodka as well? A former co-worker told me that if you travel to Russia you either drink vodka - and drink as much as they give you - or you don't (and if you don't you need to have a good reason why). He suggested saying that you are a recovering alcoholic to avoid having to drink too much! How would this go over in Poland??? In my case, I would probably pass out on the table after two drinks. Maybe I should ask Loco's g/f for her tips... ;D in PL culture it's not cool not to eat whatever the hosts offer anway. vegetarianism is not an acceptable excuse. not kidding. the alcoholic excuse is the same thing.. no fly.. no such thing as an alcoholic in PL and russia. her tip would be to either avoid the stuff or watch what the locals do and do exactly the same: eat the pickled herring, kielbasa, tartar when the rest of the party is eating it. also, don't sit next to a grandma who is looking for trouble.  i can't see the pic at work but duck blood soup is called "czernina" and basically consists of just the blood. there is pepper and salt and a coupl of other things in it.. i am sure you could google the recipe. |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 4, 2008 22:30:14 GMT 1
With Loco, you mean B/F, not G/F, but I won't talk on that, it is his choice, he likes only men, and young boys.
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Post by gigi on Sept 4, 2008 23:13:56 GMT 1
i can't see the pic at work but duck blood soup is called "czernina" and basically consists of just the blood. there is pepper and salt and a coupl of other things in it.. i am sure you could google the recipe. I'm thinking no to any soup that has blood in it. Not enough vodka on the planet for me to eat that!  |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 5, 2008 5:48:32 GMT 1
 Is this blood soup? What all is in it? nope. this is red borscht with stuffed dumplings. (barszcz z uszkami - barshch zzz ushkahmee) delish but strong beet flavor. it could be an acquired taste. most american food is rather bland compared to other nations'. this is also one of the traditional Christmas dishes. |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 5, 2008 5:52:26 GMT 1
i can't see the pic at work but duck blood soup is called "czernina" and basically consists of just the blood. there is pepper and salt and a coupl of other things in it.. i am sure you could google the recipe. I'm thinking no to any soup that has blood in it. Not enough vodka on the planet for me to eat that! czernina is good but way more of an acquired taste then the borscht. this looks more like it.  the blood soup does not have a burgundy twinge to it. it's more brown and still clear. |
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 5, 2008 11:42:21 GMT 1
Is this blood soup? What all is in it? i can't see the pic at work but duck blood soup is called "czernina" and basically consists of just the blood. there is pepper and salt and a coupl of other things in it.. i am sure you could google the recipe. I'm thinking no to any soup that has blood in it. Not enough vodka on the planet for me to eat that! You actually don`t smell or taste blood in it. It is boiled out. nope. this is red borscht with stuffed dumplings. (barszcz z uszkami - barshch zzz ushkahmee) delish but strong beet flavor. Yes, I also think it is red borsch. With dumplings called uszka :little ears. czernina is good but way more of an acquired taste then the borscht. this looks more like it. the blood soup does not have a burgundy twinge to it. it's more brown and still clear. Yes, this is correct, I suppose, although I have never eaten blood soup. I only saw how small amounts of blood turn brown after being boiled in various soups and dishes. |
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 5, 2008 11:49:48 GMT 1
With Loco, you mean B/F, not G/F, but I won't talk on that, it is his choice, he likes only men, and young boys. Mike, I have to intervene and give you a mild warning. Stop being unpleasant personally. Can you get off Loco for a while? You seem to hold grudge against him because he dared to have a different opinion on American politics from you. Let me state it again: We may differ in opinions because that is everybody`s due right as both Poland and US are democratic. |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 5, 2008 16:40:08 GMT 1
Does this go for the both of us, me and Loco. I will stop, and he must also.
I am sorry, but find it hard to think that a man from Poland could be so unhappy with everything.
I will stop, as of now, with this.
Loco, I am sorry if I upset you so much.
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 12, 2008 11:22:07 GMT 1
I am not a true vegetarian, but as I indicated in another thread I am not very adventurous with meat dishes. Wouldn't it be better to be a temporary vegetarian than to offend someone by not eating the food he/she offered? Would this logic apply to drinks like vodka as well? A former co-worker told me that if you travel to Russia you either drink vodka - and drink as much as they give you - or you don't (and if you don't you need to have a good reason why). He suggested saying that you are a recovering alcoholic to avoid having to drink too much! How would this go over in Poland??? In my case, I would probably pass out on the table after two drinks. Maybe I should ask Loco's g/f for her tips... ;D in PL culture it's not cool not to eat whatever the hosts offer anway. vegetarianism is not an acceptable excuse. not kidding. Loco, I need to update it. Polish culture is a very broad complex phenomenon and you can`t sweep all Poles under one carpet. No kidding and no excuses may probably happen in very primitive circles, in families where members happily pounce on any reason to start fighting. One of such reasons is the refusal to eat or drink, it is then when the brawl is likely to start. But people who I spend a lot of time with are not like that. You may refuse anything and nobody will say a scornful word. They might think you are a bit of a freak but they won`t express it in public. No. Why lie about it? You just simply say you don`t drink and that`s all. People usually gently encourage you for a while but they give up seeing you have made your mind and won`t change it. And the case of your drinking is finished, also for the future. I always encourage my non-drinking bro-in-law to have a glass of sth, but everybody knows I am joking as he is a confirmed abstainee, so it is a good reason for laughter at the table, not scorn/contempt. That`s how such matters are resolved in my circles... |
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Post by jeanne on Sept 12, 2008 11:40:47 GMT 1
in PL culture it's not cool not to eat whatever the hosts offer anway. vegetarianism is not an acceptable excuse. not kidding. Loco, I need to update it. Polish culture is a very broad complex phenomenon and you can`t sweep all Poles under one carpet. No kidding and no excuses may probably happen in very primitive circles, in families where members happily pounce on any reason to start fighting. One of such reasons is the refusal to eat or drink, it is then when the brawl is likely to start. But people who I spend a lot of time with are not like that. You may refuse anything and nobody will say a scornful word. They might think you are a bit of a freak but they won`t express it in public. No. Why lie about it? You just simply say you don`t drink and that`s all. People usually gently encourage you for a while but they give up seeing you have made your mind and won`t change it. And the case of your drinking is finished, also for the future. I always encourage my non-drinking bro-in-law to have a glass of sth, but everybody knows I am joking as he is a confirmed abstainee, so it is a good reason for laughter at the table, not scorn/contempt. That`s how such matters are resolved in my circles... When my daughter (who at the time was a vegetarian) went to Poland, she was nervous about not having enough to eat, but, gratefully, her b/f's mother cooked only vegetarian meals for her, which were, by the way, delicious. At the other extreme, however, when they went back to Poland to ski at New Year's, the other two girls in their six-some held my daughter's arms and actually tried to force her to drink more after she felt she had reached her limit... So I agree with Bonobo, that attitudes in Poland run the full gamut! |
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Post by Bonobo on Sept 12, 2008 14:16:49 GMT 1
At the other extreme, however, when they went back to Poland to ski at New Year's, the other two girls in their six-some held my daughter's arms and actually tried to force her to drink more after she felt she had reached her limit... So I agree with Bonobo, that attitudes in Poland run the full gamut! It could have happened... really nasty if they were dead serious about it..... Incidents like that take place when you don`t know the people you are drinking with.... But people are different. I wouldn`t like to have anything in common with those 2 primitive girls. Below my level.... And your daughter learnt it in a drastic way.... |
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Post by jeanne on Sept 13, 2008 3:03:18 GMT 1
It could have hapened... really nasty if they were dead serious about it..... Incidents like that happen when you don`t know the people you are drinking with.... But people are different everywhere. I wouldn`t like to have anything in common with those 2 primitive girls. Below my level.... And your daughter learnt it too in a drastic way.... Yes, agreed, and it's probably another reason why the relationship with the guy didn't work out (since they were some of his friends) and my daughter is now happily married to someone else! |
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Post by gigi on Oct 7, 2008 13:39:14 GMT 1
Potato, staple and despised food in Poland, is never used on pizza which is considered a bit fancier dish. Are potatoes truly despised in Poland? I am curious to hear more about this... Also, your comment about pizza being a "fancier" dish is intriguing. It is pretty much a staple here!  It would be interesting to hear more about what are considered to be "fancier" dishes in Poland. |
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Post by tufta on Oct 7, 2008 14:16:43 GMT 1
Potato, staple and despised food in Poland, is never used on pizza which is considered a bit fancier dish. Are potatoes truly despised in Poland? I am curious to hear more about this... Also, your comment about pizza being a "fancier" dish is intriguing. It is pretty much a staple here! It would be interesting to hear more about what are considered to be "fancier" dishes in Poland. At least in the region where I live potatoes are very much loved and prepared in numerous ways Although I prefer makarony or pasta. Both are only a part of dish. As to pizza - it is 'fancier' as it is not eaten as often as potatoes or makarony |
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