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Post by Bonobo on May 1, 2011 11:34:49 GMT 1
In the underground station, why did this old man, after failing to cancel his ticket in the machine, gave up and walked through the gate which displayed the sign warning against using it.   I also saw a teenager who jumped over the barriers and entered the platform for free. Does it happen often? |
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Post by tufta on May 2, 2011 7:17:00 GMT 1
I don't know, Bo. The older man must have decided his case is 'uzasadniony', while the sign on the gate reads 'nieuzasadnione opening will be prosecuted'.  |
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Post by Bonobo on May 3, 2011 8:10:47 GMT 1
I don't know, Bo. The older man must have decided his case is 'uzasadniony', while the sign on the gate reads 'nieuzasadnione opening will be prosecuted'. Justified contra unjustified. ;D ;D ;D Only God can judge it. Another question: Our Warsaw guide was against urban sprawl and replacing old buildings, no matter how decrepit they are, with new ones. She told us the old tannery was saved from demolishing at the last moment. Now it has been declared a historical monument. What do you think - should it be kept there?  |
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Post by tufta on May 3, 2011 15:37:53 GMT 1
Is it in Okopowa? Very nice. Why not keep it. There're quite a few buildings saved and used in new roles. For instance Warsaw Rising Museum in the old powerhouse for trams  Wola gas containers, saved not yet used  |
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Post by tufta on May 3, 2011 15:45:37 GMT 1
Example of new architecture nicely incorporating the industrial old-timers. Nowe Powi¶le apartments   |
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Post by Bonobo on May 10, 2011 20:56:31 GMT 1
Is it in Okopowa? Very nice. Why not keep it. There're quite a few buildings saved and used in new roles. For instance Warsaw Rising Museum in the old powerhouse for trams Wola gas containers, saved not yet used I was doubtful. But you convinced me! I support the idea. Next question: what do you think of erecting a monument to Napoleon in Warsaw? I think it is improper from the historical point of view.
Napoleon's Monument Unveiled in Warsaw
A monument to Napoleon I was unveiled in Warsaw's Powstancow Square on May 5, on the 190th anniversary of the emperor's death thanks to the initiative of Jean Caillot, president of the Polish Section of the League of Honor Members Association.
Like time, the site was not accidental. Before WW2 the square was named after Napoleon I and 90 years ago a monument of Napoleon sculptured by Jan Antoni Biernacki was erected there, but later destroyed during the war.
The ceremony was attended by French Ambassador to Poland Francois Barry Delongchamps and Warsaw city authorities.
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Post by tufta on May 12, 2011 13:22:12 GMT 1
what do you think of erecting a monument to Napoleon in Warsaw? I think it is improper from the historical point of view. ------ Before WW2 the square was named after Napoleon I and 90 years ago a monument of Napoleon sculptured by Jan Antoni Biernacki was erected there, but later destroyed during the war. I am for leaving 'the Napoleon controversy' to German and French. They love to quarrel whose idea of 'united Europe' brought by the soldiers was worse. Poles (or is is just Varsovians?) love Napoleon and napoleonki! Besides - I don't think it is any more controvercial than 'Czterech ¦pi±cych' monument to Soviets in Praga district  |
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Post by Bonobo on May 12, 2011 17:57:05 GMT 1
Poles (or is is just Varsovians?) love Napoleon and napoleonki! I know that Subiekt Rzecki loves Napoleon. Still there? Good! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by tufta on May 13, 2011 20:35:53 GMT 1
I know that Subiekt Rzecki loves Napoleon. so you do get my drift, ziom! |
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Post by Bonobo on Nov 27, 2011 18:28:41 GMT 1
They are remporarily removing the controvercial Polish-Soviet brotherhood monument, but it is going to return to the neighbourhood after renovation. Do you agree with most Varsavians who want to have it there?
Soviet sleeping soldiers monument dismantled in Warsaw
10.11.2011 11:36
A monument commemorating Soviet soldiers who died during the ‘liberation’ of Poland from the Nazi occupiers following WW II is being dismantled in Warsaw due to construction work on a new metro line.
photo - PAP/Andrzej Hrechorowicz
The monument will undergo extensive renovation.
The statue, erected in September 1945 on Plac Wilenski in the eastern Praga district, is known to locals as the “four sleeping soldiers” owing to the bowed heads of the figures at the corners of the plinth.
The official name of the memorial is the Statue of Polish-Soviet Brothers in Arms.
As one of the first monuments to be raised after the Red Army had spread its grip over Polish territory, the statue sparked enduring controversy, and was seen by anti-communists as a symbol of a second occupation.
Many called for the removal of the monument altogether following the collapse of communism as it was seen a symbol of the past. |
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Post by tufta on Dec 7, 2011 21:58:35 GMT 1
If the local inhabitants of this quarter, which I extremely rarely visit, want the monument back in the old place, I will not march in protest |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 28, 2011 19:23:08 GMT 1
If the local inhabitants of this quarter, which I extremely rarely visit, want the monument back in the old place, I will not march in protest Good. I like your attachment to history. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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