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Post by Bonobo on Apr 15, 2008 20:56:27 GMT 1
Franciszek, what do you know about the cultural difference between Poles and Brits? Poor Brits are hollering because their fish are caught and devoured by continental barbarians! Why don`t the British eat ther fish they catch? Are the waters in British rivers so polluted that fish are inedible? Read the article:  
Warning signs go up to stop Poles tealing river fish for Christmas dinner
To any peckish Poles or ravenous Romanians, the message could not be clearer.
Keep off our fish.
Three roadsign-style warnings were launched yesterday to stop Eastern European immigrants from spearing, taking home and cooking coarse fish from our rivers, lakes and canals.
The initiative is timely because carp and pike are a traditional Christmas dish in Poland and officials fear an increase in fish rustling over the next few weeks.
Eastern Europeans often plead ignorance of the British tradition that catches are thrown back, and instead take them home for supper. |
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Post by franciszek on Apr 15, 2008 21:45:02 GMT 1
Franciska, what do you know about the cultural difference between Poles and Brits? Poor Brits are hollering because their fish are caught and devoured by continental barbarians! Why don`t the British eat thee fish they catch? Are the waters in British rivers so polluted that fish are inedible? Read the article:
Warning signs go up to stop Poles tealing river fish for Christmas dinner
To any peckish Poles or ravenous Romanians, the message could not be clearer.
Keep off our fish.
Three roadsign-style warnings were launched yesterday to stop Eastern European immigrants from spearing, taking home and cooking coarse fish from our rivers, lakes and canals.
The initiative is timely because carp and pike are a traditional Christmas dish in Poland and officials fear an increase in fish rustling over the next few weeks.
Eastern Europeans often plead ignorance of the British tradition that catches are thrown back, and instead take them home for supper.Its a strange one this i have never been a fisherman but i know many who are some do fish for the enjoyment of catching and admiring there quarry as for pollution our rivers are not in the countryside there is a progamme called the Accidental Fisherman (think this is correct title which opened my eyes about fishing completely granted he does get to fish around the world for exotic fish but then he does also get to fish for trout in the unglamorous Thames. On the subject of dirty fish in 1996 i was in fish&chip shop in Harrogate N.Yorkshire a pricey tourist town and a customer asked for a cod and was told by the owner that no chip shop in Yorkshire would sell cod as it was a scavenger and ate all the rubbish in the sea ,they only sold haddock and plaice |
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 15, 2008 22:05:45 GMT 1
On the subject of dirty fish in 1996 i was in fish&chip shop in Harrogate N.Yorkshire a pricey tourist town and a customer asked for a cod and was told by the owner that no chip shop in Yorkshire would sell cod as it was a scavenger and ate all the rubbish in the sea ,they only sold haddock and plaice That`s interesting. But I think the owner was taking people for a ride. It is a known fact that British fish and chip shops sell spiny dogfish meat as rock salmon. Dogfish are pure sharks, which make perfect scavengers and sea vacuum cleaners, don`t they? Read about dogfish en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiny_dogfishSpiny dogfish are fished for food in Europe, the United States, Canada, New Zealand and Chile. The meat is primarily consumed in England, France, the Benelux countries and Germany. The fins and tails are processed into fin needles and are used in less expensive versions of shark fin soup in Chinese cuisine. In England it is sold in "fish and chip shops" as "rock salmon", in France it is sold as "small salmon" (saumonette) and in Belgium it is sold as "sea eel" (zeepaling). It is also used as fertilizer, liver oil, and pet food, and, because of its availability and manageable size, as a popular vertebrate dissection specimen, especially in high schools.
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Post by valpomike on Apr 15, 2008 23:16:12 GMT 1
What kind of fish do you catch and eat around Poland? We, on our last visit, went with our friends to there sumer home, and they fished and caught something, I don't remember the name, but was large, in the lake by there place, I did not care much for it. They cut it into steaks and made it that way. I know there are several good fish, in Poland, but don't know much on them. We did eat at Osteria Restauracja, in Warsaw. The fish was great, but I think it was inported. Tell us more on your fish.
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 16, 2008 11:51:45 GMT 1
What kind of fish do you catch and eat around Poland? We, on our last visit, went with our friends to there sumer home, and they fished and caught something, I don't remember the name, but was large, in the lake by there place, I did not care much for it. They cut it into steaks and made it that way. I know there are several good fish, in Poland, but don't know much on them. We did eat at Osteria Restauracja, in Warsaw. The fish was great, but I think it was inported. Tell us more on your fish. Carp is eaten at Christmas. Herring is popular throughout the year. Salmon and many other too. Catfish can be eaten too.  Salmon   More pics here. www.trzebiez.pl/po46.htmlIt all shows that Poles catch to eat. Throwing the fish back to water is a waste of time and energy. |
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Post by ozzy on Apr 16, 2008 18:32:39 GMT 1
Bonobo: come on.. Not everybody catches fish only for eating. We have to distinguish between sport hunting and.. Let's say 'traditional village hunting for poor people' who do not do that for pleasure but for food. I used to go fishing with a crazy friend of mine when I was a kid. We spent the whole night fishing, usually without our own food since we were to lazy to prepare sth (or we had not time for doing that) and we usually ate what we cought (grilled on a Bonfire). Those were the days :-)))) As for catfish I saw one monster measuring 1,9 metres ! it was bigger that me!  My friend's father is into fishing. |
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 16, 2008 19:13:54 GMT 1
Bonobo: come on.. Not everybody catches fish only for eating. Of course not hahaha. But fishing for food is so popular in Poland that we can talk about the majority. I know a lot of anglers and most admit they eat their prey. It is not only the poor villagers. My wife`s cousin is an ardent angler, he isn`t poor and he always eats his catch. The only exceptions he makes are for fish from polluted waters, like Wisła River. Yes, fishing is a wonderful hobby. I remember my days at the kayaking sport camp in 1981. Trainings were boring and tiring, but afterwards we were allowed some free time, so we went fishing with our primitive rods. i always loved lake and all water wild life. It is so exciting. I tried to reactivate this habit in 1990s when I went with my girlfriend (now wife) on a camping holiday by the lake. I caught a few fish, but I felt so sorry for their plight that I vowed never ever to touch the fishing rod. I thought it was my Christian duty. Catfish can be really big. Or could, in the past.  when rivers were unpolluted. |
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Post by valpomike on Apr 17, 2008 2:35:48 GMT 1
Here in the U.S.A. we use those small fish, in the photo's for bait.
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 24, 2017 14:52:47 GMT 1
Nearly 10 years after my first post, Brits are still angered to see their fish kidnapped and eaten by Polish anglers. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/18/fishery-could-face-legal-action-for-sign-banning-eastern-european-anglers
Fishery could face legal action for sign banning east European anglers
Field Farm fisheries in Oxfordshire ignores letters from Polish enthusiast and the Equality and Human Rights Commission
Diane Taylor
Mon 18 Dec ‘17 17.34 GMT
Last modified on Tue 19 Dec ‘17 07.47 GMT
A fishery in Oxfordshire could face legal action after it put up a sign saying “No Polish or eastern bloc fishermen allowed”.
Field Farm fisheries, near Bicester, which describes itself as “picturesque, tranquil and an idyllic setting” with an “extensively stocked” lake for leisure anglers, has ignored letters from a Polish enthusiast and the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC).
Now the angler, Rado Papiewski, is hoping to launch a discrimination case and has set up a crowdfunding campaign to fund the action.
Papiewski, 35, from Doncaster, said other anglers alerted him to the notice earlier this year. In full it reads: “No vehicle access. No Polish or eastern bloc fishermen allowed. No children or dogs.”
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Papiewski said he was dismayed by the sign. “When I first saw it I thought of my 10-year-old son who loves angling,” he said. “How could I say to him you can’t fish here because your dad was born in Poland?”
He decided to challenge the sign, which he believes to be discriminatory, and wrote to Field Farm fisheries requesting that it be removed.
He received no response and then approached the EHRC. But correspondence from it also failed to get the sign removed so Papiewski decided to launch a crowdjustice campaign to fund the legal action.
“This disturbing sign should have never been displayed as it clearly discriminates against people from Poland and other eastern European countries,” said Papiewski.
“It made many fellow law-abiding migrant anglers and me very upset and angry. Quite simply – we want the sign removed and to show that discriminatory signs like this one have no place in the angling community of Great Britain.”
Papiewski also has the backing of the Angling Trust. On Monday he urged others to support his call to get the sign removed, and “show that Great Britain is a welcoming place where fishermen from across Europe can coexist peacefully”.
If he succeeds, the business could be ordered to pay compensation and remove the sign.
Field Farm is closed for the winter. Its website says that the lake is populated by carp, along with roach, rudd, tench, bream and golden orfe.
A woman who picked up the phone at the number listed on its website said the sign was still up but that the gate to the site was locked. She added that the owner was away and that the sign is on private land. A request to pass on a message seeking comment to the owner was declined.
Papiewski runs a project called Building Bridges, aimed at integrating fishing communities from mainland Europe – much of which allows anglers to keep their catch – with anglers in the UK, where fish must be returned to the water.
He helps educate immigrant anglers about the difference between the laws governing angling in mainland Europe and those in the UK, and tries to ensure they abide by British rules.
The aim of British laws requiring anglers to return fish to the waters they come from is to improve conservation and prevent the depletion of fish stocks.
Papiewski argues that the ban at Field Farm fisheries, which has no relation to another identically named business in Suffolk, is disproportionate and that only a small number of those prosecuted for breaking the angling rules are of eastern European origin.
His solicitor Alex Peebles, said Papiewski’s account suggested the Equality Act 2010 had been breached. “The sign displayed by the business demonstrates clearly that they are refusing to provide their services to certain people, purely on the basis of their race and/or nationality,” he said. “Race and nationality are protected characteristics under the Equality Act.”
An EHRC spokesperson said: “This type of sign should be a thing of the past. Banning people from services based on their race or nationality is discrimination and unlawful. It’s right to challenge such out of date practices and any business that believes this is acceptable should think again before they find themselves facing legal action.”
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My friend's father is into fishing.
when rivers were unpolluted.