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Post by locopolaco on May 14, 2008 3:58:32 GMT 1
yes, famous polish winged horsemen. now, why are they called husars (husarz/e) ? it's a word of arabic origin. any idea?
a few years ago , in Chicago, there was a touring exhibit of the husars' artifacts. there was even a turkish tent from the battle of Vienna. that and a whole Husar outfit were the highlights. it was very, very cool but i don't recall an explanation of the name. i am not sure where in PL this exhibit came from but if you ever have a chance, definitely go see it. it may still be touring the world for all i know.
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Post by Bonobo on May 14, 2008 14:49:10 GMT 1
Hussars were fascinating indeed. They were heavy tanks of 17 century. Did you see this famous scene with hussar charge at full gallop in Potop film? polandsite.proboards104.com/index.cgi?board=polishhistory&action=display&thread=45&page=1#530By Jim I have collected many images of Polish Winged Hussars over the last few years off the internet and thought I would share with all of you. Before I do that here is a little history of these 'Iron Men with Eagles Wings'. "As your army stands deployed for battle, you scan the enemy's lines across the field. Cavalrymen in crimson riding coats begin their advance toward you, slowly at first, saving their horses' strength for the last moments of the charge. As the oncoming army gathers speed your own horses become skittish and a strange roaring whistle grows in the air above the pounding of hooves. Your stomach tightens and a cold sweat breaks across you. Mounted on horses sixteen to seventeen hands high the approaching horsemen appear even more gigantic as you see sweeping wings of eagle feathers arch high over their steel-clad heads. Above the disciplined ranks of thundering iron figures flutter enormous standards bearing images of a white eagle on a blood red field and others showing the winged Archangel, Michael. Fantastic cloaks and saddle cloths of wolf, tiger, and leopard skins flap around every soldier as they continue their ominous attack. As you begin your counter-charge, the galloping knights lower gold-leaf covered lances with streaming pennons for the final impact. You vow to yourself that if you survive this day you will never forget your encounter with the winged Hussars of Poland. "  Much has been written about these most feared Cavalry troops of Polands Golden Age. For several centuries Polands Hussars won almost every engagement they participated in and in fact most of the time they were greatly outnumbered but because of their skill and training were able to overcome insumountable odds. They are still emulated today by most of the worlds light armoured units who still display the red over white triangular pennant. Sobieski after the Battle of Vienna:   Typical Hussar:  Initially the first units of Polish hussars in the Kingdom of Poland were formed by the Sejm (Polish parliament) in 1503, which hired three banners of Hungarian mercenaries. Quickly recruitment also began among Polish and Lithuanian citizens. Being far more maneuverable than the heavily armoured lancers previously employed, the hussars proved vital to the Polish and Lithuanian victories at Orsza (1514) and Obertyn (1531). By the reign of King Stefan Batory the hussars had replaced medieval-style lancers in the Polish-Lithuanian army, and they now formed the bulk of the Polish cavalry. A Polish Winged Hussar, drawing by W.T. Benda    Over the course of the 1500s hussars in Hungary had become heavier in character: they had abandoned wooden shields and adopted plate metal body armour. When Stefan Batory, a Transylvanian-Hungarian prince, became king of Poland in 1576 he reorganized the Polish-Lithuanian hussars of his Royal Guard along Hungarian lines, making them a heavy formation, equipped with a long lance as their main weapon. By the 1590s most Polish-Lithuanian hussar units had been reformed along the same 'heavy' Hungarian model. These Polish 'heavy' hussars were known in their homeland as husaria.     With the Battle of Lubieszów in 1577 the 'Golden Age' of the husaria began. Down to and including the Battle of Vienna in 1683, the Polish-Lithuanian hussars fought countless actions against a variety of enemies, and rarely lost a battle. In the battles of Byczyna (1588), Kokenhusen (1601), Kircholm (1605), K³uszyn (1610), Trzciana (1629), Chocim (1673) and Lwów (1675), the Polish-Lithuanian hussars proved to be the decisive factor often against overwhelming odds. Until the 18th century they were considered the elite of Commonwealth armed forces.  Polish Hussar from the Book Cavalry - The History of a Fighting Elite 650 BC - AD 1914. ![]() [/IMG] "For over a century, the Husaria were the lords of the battlefield, delivering the decisive blow in many an important engagement; at Kircholm (1605) 3,900 Poles accounted for 13,500 Swedes, at Klushino (1610) 6,000 Poles (of only 200 were infantry) defeated 30,000 Muscovite and 5,000 German and Scottish mercenaries, at Gniew on the onset of the Deluge in the midst of agonizing defeats everywhere (1656) 5,500 Polish cavalry defeated 13,000 Swedes and outside Vienna (1683) the Husaria saved Europe from the, until then, unstoppable might of the Ottoman Empire. In 1699, the remnants of the once mighty army of the Commonwealth defeated the Tartars & Turks at Podhajce, the final engagement of the Poles with the Ottomans."   Jim      Pictures used in this post were downloaded from these sites: One run by Richard Suligowski : www.geocities.com/rik_fox/husariawww.geocities.com/rik_fox/husaria/museum.htmland these www.wingedhussar.org/husaria.htmlwww.odkrywcy.com/odkrywcy1/odkrywcy_files/middleframe_files/Ukraina07Broch.htmhusaria1.webpark.pl/srodek_his_hus.htmmarek-t.gq.nu/www.numizmatyczny.pl/go/_info/?id=622 |
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Post by Bonobo on May 14, 2008 19:43:47 GMT 1
yes, famous polish winged horsemen. now, why are they called husars (husarz/e) ? it's a word of arabic origin. any idea? a few years ago , in Chicago, there was a touring exhibit of the husars' artifacts. there was even a turkish tent from the battle of Vienna. that and a whole Husar outfit were the highlights. it was very, very cool but i don't recall an explanation of the name. i am not sure where in PL this exhibit came from but if you ever have a chance, definitely go see it. it may still be touring the world for all i know. Yes, I remember reading about the exhibition. It concerned old Polish culture and was called the Land of the Winged Riders. They used exhibits borrowed from the Czartoryski Museum. We saw them a month ago so they aren`t touring now. polandsite.proboards104.com/index.cgi?board=krakw&action=display&thread=193&page=1#1362The name hussar comes from the Serbian language and it meant a free rider. Serbs manned cavalry units which fought againts Turks all over Europe after their own country had been invaded and occupied. Some info here, in Polish only. But if you have an electronic translator.... www.husaria.jest.pl/www.hussar.com.pl/galerie-zdjeciowe/husaria-w-malarstwie www.geocities.com/rik_fox/husaria/museum.html |
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Post by locopolaco on May 15, 2008 2:52:30 GMT 1
The name hussar comes from the Serbian language and it meant a free rider. Serbs manned cavalry units which fought againts Turks all over Europe after their own country had been invaded and occupied. i still don't think that's the actual origin of the word. i really don't think it's serbian.. i guess it could be hungarian. i will have to look into it further. if i find out otherwise, i surely will post up.  |
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Post by Bonobo on May 15, 2008 7:22:05 GMT 1
I am googling and most Polish sources say it is from gusar, Serbian term meaning a rider. Serbs were mounted mercenaries hired by Hungary, that is why the term developed into hussar. We can say that the immediate derivation of the Polish husarz is from Hungarian, while the more distant one, close to original, from Serbian. I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that there are two similar words in Polish. Husarz - a winged knight. Huzar - a Hungarian light cavalry soldier with these characteristic ornaments on the uniform, from Hungarian army.   They are often mistaken by Poles, even by professional soldiers who name their equipment Huzar meaning Husarz. The anti-tank helicopter called Huzar, developed in 90s. Of course, the army specialists had a patriotic intention to name it husarz, the winged knight. But they failed their Polish and History exam...... ;D ;D www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9591&d=1152648901 |
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Post by valpomike on May 19, 2008 18:36:30 GMT 1
Dumb questions, what is the value of the wings, or is just a style thing?
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Post by Bonobo on May 19, 2008 20:37:48 GMT 1
Dumb questions, what is the value of the wings, or is just a style thing? I will tell you honestly that historians are not 100% sure about those wings. Most claim they were used to produce a strange sound while the riders were galloping at full speed. The sound allegedly scared enemy`s horses. Other historians suggest that wings served as a protection against Tartars` (Mongol nomadic warriors) lassoes. |
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Post by Bonobo on May 20, 2008 6:49:06 GMT 1
and some say they are just for decoration but my guess is that they were for noise and lasso prevention but i also think it made the rider look taller/bigger then he really was. Yes, correct, I forgot to mention the apparent bigger size of a rider with wings attached at the back. |
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Post by Bonobo on May 6, 2009 20:18:07 GMT 1
Dzien dobry pajnstwo... Czesc, Alow me to introduce myself, Ryszard Sulima~Suligowski Fox (aka Rik Fox) from Los Angeles, California, USA. I am last of the Sulima-Suligowski bloodline in USA. Our family has had many famous members of Suligowski-Sulkowski, Polish history in it, and in Warsaw is ul. Suligowskiego, named for us. We share same 'Herby' of Zawisza Czarny, iand, Jozef Sulkowski (of Napoleon). I noticed that there was posting here in this group by someone about Polska Husaria, and this person used many, many images from my website, but they didn't give proper credit to my source from where they took my website images. It would be nice to receive such proper credit for it, in their nice article about Polska Husaria. Could you please make announcement of credit, from where you took my website images: (http://www.geocities.com/rik_fox/husaria (Without boasting), I was literally first person in USA to actively promote winged husaria to raise Polish historical awareness and culture. I created this before anyone else, in 1999. When I wanted to create this, others who were Polish, told me: "Don't make winged husaria in USA, it won't work, no one is interested, because in USA, it is not popular to be Polish, so you will fail". ten years later, we are very successful in creating winged husaria in USA (and followed by others). But it was very, very difficult road to make it successful about husaria in USA. There was almost no knowledge about husaria in USA, in 1998-9, and almost nothing on internet, until I put it there, and others began to take and use my internet images of husaria for their own websites. Our group called 'Pulk Suligowskiego' (Suligowski's Regiment), named in memory of my late Father, Leonard J. Suligowski, who helped create it. After I created it as first winged hussar in USA to be 'recognized' (by many Polish-American organizattions), and Warsaw reporter, Pan Robert Strybel, who recognized my efforts, for this, many other similar groups began to follow what we did and create their own groups. Now, in many places in USA, are several Polska Husaria groups, like ours, except they don't want recognize that I/our group, was 'first'. Lots of jealousy, and competetive feelings from them, and they said bad things about me and our group to anyone who listens about it. This is very sad, because we should work together, like 'Solidarnosc', but they refuse to be this way to me and our group. If you would like, I can tell small story of how I started being 'first' winged hussar in USA, and maybe you will be very interested to know about it. But that will be another time, because I ask about it now. In 2002, we made USA history in NYC Pulaski Day Parade, because it was 'first' time in USA history to ever see a winged hussar in any parade in America. We did it first, and some others were jealous that we did it before them. I also had 'great idea' to make a 'tour' to Poland to visit all places about husaria, and told it to a friend, who said 'nie, it won't be successful'. Now, this same friend, took my idea and makes successful husaria tours to Poland and participate in event: "Vivat Vasa", but refused to render proper credit, that it was first, 'my' idea to create such a tour. Many people there, in Poland don't know about these 'TRUE' facts because some others of husaria in USA, 'hide' the truth about my creations. They said: "We don't care who was first, it doesn't matter". But in reality, it DOES matter who created such a great thing first. Mostly, because I am 'American-born', not born in Poland. This is my 'passion' to educate others in USA about husaria. We would like the 'truth' about it all to be known to everyone in Poland, because it should be known that way as 'Truth', and not lies, because when a person makes a creation, they should receive deserved rewards for it, especially when it makes others happy about it and proud to be Polish. If you like to know more about us, please go here: www.husaria.us , and, www.foxywebdesigns.comThere is also a website about the Husaria Foundation in Warsaw, Poland, about us which I can post link later. There, you will see truths about us, and many other 'links' for our organization on 'youtube' including famous video made by Jan Polubinski of 2002 NYC Pulaski Parade. Dziekuje bardzo for your patience and compassion about my Suligowski family passion about husaria here, in USA. I only know a little about speaking Polish, so please be patient with me. Czesc, Rik (Sulima-Suligowski) Fox Founder, Suligowski's Regiment (of Sobieski's Command) Los Angeles, California, USA I would like to add this info here that some pictures of hussars presented in this thread were downloaded from this site www.geocities.com/rik_fox/husariarun by Mr Richard Suligowski, who with his late father were the first in the USA to propagate the knowledge about Polish hussaria. |
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Post by 1stuswingedhussar on May 7, 2009 19:18:56 GMT 1
Posted by jkustelski on May 13, 2008, 9:41pm
"I have collected many images of Polish Winged Hussars over the last few years off the internet and thought I would share with all of you. Before I do that here is a little history of these 'Iron Men with Eagles Wings'. "
Rik: Yes, and I noticed that there was posting here in this group by jkustelski about Polska Husaria, and this person used many, many images from my website, but they didn't give proper credit to my source from where they took the pictures from my website's images. While it was nice of you to help promote the history of the winged hussars as I have been doing since 1998, when there was almost *nothing* on the internet about them, and then I put it there, my site...It would be nice to receive such proper credit for it, in your nice article about Polska Husaria. Could you please make a corrected announcement of credit, from where you took my website images: (http://www.geocities.com/rik_fox/husaria
Maybe everyone would like to see the entire website in proper context that way...
Thank you for your interest in the husaria
Website owner
Rik Sulima~Suligowski Fox
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Post by 1stuswingedhussar on May 7, 2009 19:20:42 GMT 1
Dzienkuje bardzo muj dobrsze Pan!  Rik |
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Post by Bonobo on May 7, 2009 19:26:24 GMT 1
Posted by jkustelski on May 13, 2008, 9:41pm "I have collected many images of Polish Winged Hussars over the last few years off the internet and thought I would share with all of you. Before I do that here is a little history of these 'Iron Men with Eagles Wings'. " Rik: Yes, and I noticed that there was posting here in this group by jkustelski about Polska Husaria, and this person used many, many images from my website, but they didn't give proper credit to my source from where they took the pictures from my website's images. While it was nice of you to help promote the history of the winged hussars as I have been doing since 1998, when there was almost *nothing* on the internet about them, and then I put it there, my site...It would be nice to receive such proper credit for it, in your nice article about Polska Husaria. Could you please make a corrected announcement of credit, from where you took my website images: (http://www.geocities.com/rik_fox/husaria Maybe everyone would like to see the entire website in proper context that way... Thank you for your interest in the husaria Website owner Rik Sulima~Suligowski Fox Rik, as Jim left our forum almost exactly one year ago, I did it on his behalf. I added the information about your site at the end of his two posts containing the photos of hussaria. Is it enough or do you want to have this address under each picture? In that case, it won`t be a problem to add it, but could you specify which pictures are they exactly? Here are two posts by Jim with added info about your site: polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polishhistory&action=display&thread=253&page=1#2287polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polishhistory&action=display&thread=253&page=1#2252And above there is my post with your presentation of the problem and credits added by me. polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polishhistory&action=display&thread=253&page=2#12010Is that OK? |
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Post by 1stuswingedhussar on May 7, 2009 19:49:05 GMT 1
Rik: Sorry for the delay in responding, the phone rang... You said: Rik, as Jim left our forum almost exactly one year ago, I did it on his behalf. I added the information about your site at the end of his two posts containing the photos of hussaria. Is it enough or do you want to have this address under each picture. In that case, it won`t be a problem to add it, but could you specify which pictures are they exactly? Rik: No, that's O.K., no need to go to extreme lengths It's just that when I see material(s) used from our website(s) and not given their credits, I have to ry and catch-up to the poster and ask that they 'do the right thing' and correct it. I felt that the members here would like to know from where they originally came. You did plenty, fine, and I thank you for it. ;D BTW, when you (or anyone) replies, I'm not familiar with 'how' you make those 'quote boxes' to encapsulate a particular post's passage... Can I ask, How do you do that here in this group? Thanks, Rik |
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Post by Bonobo on May 7, 2009 20:20:54 GMT 1
Rik: No, that's O.K., no need to go to extreme lengths I am glad that you are glad. And thank you very much for your understanding. It is perfectly understandable, I would feel the same if someone used pictures from this forum, forgetting to give proper credit. PS. People all over the world! You can use my photos but give proper credit!! ;D The explanation how to use quotes is here: polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=forum&action=display&thread=157&page=1In 1999-2000, I was at San Diego California Museum of Art, to see the famous exhibit "Land of the Winged Horsemen/ Art in Poland"(Czartoryski museum collection)... I stood before the zbroja husarska (Hussar's armor) and the Turkish tent from Vienna... I experienced an 'epiphany' about it, and it was a very scarey moment. Very emotional, all hairs on my body stood up and I experienced a 'cold feeling' in my stomach. Eyes became water, and a voice in my head, I heard it: "I'm home...I'm back home..." Here`s what you are talking about. Czartoryski Museum is in Kraków, we visit it once a year. On Thursdays the admission is free!!!      Polish booty Turkish ornamental shields   Pieces of Turkish weaponry   The Museum polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=krakw&action=display&thread=193 |
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Post by 1stuswingedhussar on May 8, 2009 16:22:00 GMT 1
:oWOW!  That is awesome!!! Thank you so much for sharing those pictures with me! That is some of what I saw at Polish exhibit in California... As I see them again, I still am the same, with the feeling and 'inner voice' of "I'm Home'.  May I ask you to have permission to promote these images maybe on our website? If so, Please give me the full 'photo-credit' information as you would like it to say, and I will see to it to be so. Please forgive, my Polish is not so good, but I try... This is amazing virtual tour of Czartoryski Museum... I know there are also zbroja husarska in Zamek Wawelski, in Zamek Krakowie, also in Lwow Castle there, and also in Dobryzn Golub, and Gniew maybe, too. I have seen pictures of Marlbork and inside. I have large printed copy of painting 'Bitwa pod Grunwaldem', by Matejko... na szkrydlo prawo, my Ancestor na Herbu 'Sulima'...Zawisza Czarny. Legends only describe what was his look or image, but for someone so famous in all Polish knighthood, we are suprised to find that there is no existing authentic painting of what he really look like. I would like to know if anywhere in Poland, exists any authentic picture of Zawisza... There is also Gravesite in Poland of another Suligowski ancestor: "Felicyjan Suligowski", who was Doctor to many poor people. I have photograph of this gravesite. Adolph Suligowski was famous 'Magistrate' Lawyer... Jozef Sulima Hrabia Sulkowski, as I said, was ADC to Napoleon na 'Bitwad pod Pyramidu', and was later ambushed in street by 'mob' and cut to pieces, it is famous story "Wyprawa do Egiptu, Smierc Sulkowskiego" and paintings of it: Podwug ryciny z Muzeum Narodowego w Krakowie...and, Z portretu Antoniego Brodowskiego, Muzeum Mielzynskich w Poznaniu. This is very old book my late father left to me about Napoleon by Ernest Luninski, (Napoleon-Legiony I Ksiestwo Warszawskie). In famous Matejko painting "Batory pod Pskowem", behind Batory, next to tentpole under shield, (next to Batory hat-plume), is another Suligowski ancestor amongst nobles. There is so much more but I can't put it all here, so I can later, post a link to more information about Suligowski Ancestry... So you see, I have much to live up to in eyes of my ancestors, to make them proud that I carry on traditions of 'honor i ojczyna'. Again Dziemkuje bardzo for all your kindness to me here in your forum. I hope that you can share all this information with all your company of friends and aquaintances. |
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Post by 1stuswingedhussar on May 8, 2009 18:59:19 GMT 1
For some unknown reason, maybe because of how was uploaded, but photos 'czar65', and 'czar66', (3 & 4 pictures down) refuse to copy.
No matter what format is used, these cannot be copied or transferred, while all other pictures (except 32 & 35 of Czartoryski museum tour which also do not transfer), all other pictures transfer no problem...
Can you help?
Dziejue,
Rik
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Post by Bonobo on May 8, 2009 20:00:06 GMT 1
For some unknown reason, maybe because of how was uploaded, but photos 'czar65', and 'czar66', (3 & 4 pictures down) refuse to copy. No matter what format is used, these cannot be copied or transferred, while all other pictures (except 32 & 35 of Czartoryski museum tour which also do not transfer), all other pictures transfer no problem... Can you help? Dziejue, Rik The problem is in the Internet connection you currrently have in your computer. When there are many photos on a site, normal speed is not enough, you need a really fast connection. Now I have 10 Mb and rarely do I run into such problems. The photos you are talking about show up on my screen any time I open the site. One piece of advice: it usually helps to click the Refresh button. |
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Post by Bonobo on May 8, 2009 21:13:55 GMT 1
:oWOW! That is awesome!!! Thank you so much for sharing those pictures with me! That is some of what I saw at Polish exhibit in California... As I see them again, I still am the same, with the feeling and 'inner voice' of "I'm Home'. Your joy is my joy too. Of course you may use the pictures. As credit it will be enough to provide the address of the forum. If you want, I can send you these pictures in full size. Yes, but it is forbidden to take photos in Wawel that is why I can`t show you the armour. The only photos connected with knighthood I have illegally taken in Wawel are from the Wawel Cathedral. polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=krakw&action=display&thread=266&page=1#7632Probably in The Polish Army Museum in Warsaw too. You can look at the photos from the National Museum in Warsaw where the painting is displayed. It really makes a great impression on a viewer.  Zawisza Czarny is on the right   All exhibits here polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=warsawcapitalcity&action=display&thread=382No, it doesn`t. He lived in 14/15 century, the times were still too early for faithful portraits to be painted by artists. We even don`t know what kings of that time, e.g, King Jagiełło, looked like. This is the painting  Which one?  Not this one?  Matejko`s paintings : polandsite.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=polishfilms&action=display&thread=145Yes, it is a nobilitation but also a burden to live up to ancestors` expectations. |
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Post by 1stuswingedhussar on May 9, 2009 7:42:48 GMT 1
Hi,
Thank you for all the great things you said, and for permission to use pictures, I can advertise this forum about it.
Yes, I do use the refresh button a lot, but I'll try again with the pictures that didn't copy. If it's not any trouble, yes, please, send them to me directly, to: wngdhussr@yahoo.com
In the Majetko painting Batory at Pskow, the tip edge of the black feather of Batory's plume is touching my ancestor's beard. He is partially hidden by the tent-pole.
That is Ks. Dymitr Suligowski. Why he is there no one knows, but only Matejko knew why he painted him into the picture.
Must have been an important reason why to include a Suligowski in that famous painting. I have the 'legend' explanation of the 'famous heads' in the painting, that is how I knew about it.
The winged hussar you thought I meant, is not a Suligowski, although he and I do look similar. That figure is a younger Zolkiewski before he became Hetman later on.
Like Matejko's Battle of Grunwald, Matejko took 'artistic liberty' and painted non-historical things into his paintings too. There were no winged hussars in 1410, although you can see them in the background on the right behind Zawisza Czarny.
Also there were no 'winged helmets' of later, 18th century Saxon-era Poland, but they too, are seen in the painting.
Matejko, like many other painters of such themes, was combining many small things to restore spirit and morale into the hearts of an oppressed Polish nation, to remind them that "Poland shall not perish so long as we remember'.
Also, according to history of that time of Batory, the hussars didn't wear wings on their backplates of armor, that was later in history. Hussars, at that time had a wing (or pair of wings) fixed to the back of their saddles. So, technically, they were winged hussars, but not wearing them on their armor until later years.
Czesc!
Rik
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Post by Bonobo on May 24, 2009 16:25:43 GMT 1
Dzien dobry pajnstwo,
Sharing Suligowski's Regiment at Renaissance Pleasure Faire South 2009 in 'A California winged hussars group'-photo album...
And review:
Just wanted to share a personal commentary review on our
"Suligowski' s Regiment Group-Play-Day" , at Renaissance Pleasure Faire South in Irwindale, Ca, this past Saturday, May 16.
Our members were 'honored guests' and provided with our very own table spread overlooking the Queens' Garden in the 'Friends-of- Faire Garden. We extend the greatest appreciation and Grammercy to Lady Sutherland and her staff for being our gracious hosts and honoring our group's visit.
It was one of the hottest days yet, here in SoCal, in the 90's.
And the sweat poured, and poured, and poured...
As usual, when we took our walk thru the faire, we were stopped literally 'every 5 feet' for the faire patrons and visitors asking and demanding "could you please let us take your pictures?". It would take us about an hour just to walk from the FOF Garden to the front gate!!!
Unfortunately, we couldn't bring in our horses as there's no room to manouever them in the crowds and would be too dangerous, and it would have been exceedingly hot for them if we did.
It was hot as the blazes, as I said, and it takes a serious toll on those of us in armor and zupons as we cooked...fortunatel y, because we were provided with our own table with plenty of shade, at which to sit, close to where the passersby could see us at the front railing, we stopped more traffic, and onlookers who stopped to ask who we were, and about our winged armor. I opened up our 'extended lunch' and set out Hawaiian sweet rolls, lots of ice-filled goblets, (masqueraded) sports drinks, electrolyte- laden goodies like dill pickles and spanish olives, Pears, keilbasa, honey mustard, oranages, cherries, cheeses, and such like that. A repast fit for the visiting Polish ambassadors. ..
With lunch finished and everyone recharged, we again, donned our winged armor and Tarrah in her pancerni chainmail kit (this time, minus the gorget and pauldrons), and took on the crowds as we waded thru the dusty paths, with all the verve and intensity of a very intimidating 'gang', if you will, with everyone parting to move to the sides for the impression we made as many took to the sides of the 'streets' and made room for us to walk thru. All kidding aside, the general atmosphere was very much akin as a comparison as if the rock band KISS was there walking thru the crowd, and as was the real, historical Polish winged hussars, we were 'the rock stars' of the moment in the most spectacular gear they have ever seen...Compliments abounded...except for the newest comments we heard...
Oh, you guys are from 'Flash Gordon!'...( ignorantly referring to King Voltan's 'Hawkmen' from the Flash Gordon story)...Well, we said, that's a new one...Last year, someone made a Thor comment because of my yellow leather boots, which, in Marvel Comics, Thor also sported.
Their resident Queen Elizabeth I, acknowledged us as her entourage train passed by and we returned the acknowledgement in kind, semi-half-bowing, szyszak's removed.
As can be seen from our newest home page photo, and the album mentioned above, is a brief glimpse of us captured in a moment in time. And a few more pics will wind up in the photo album mentioned above...
The only sad part was that Tarrah couldn't wear her new yellow hussar boots from Polish Hussar Supply, because they were too big and didn't fit properly...
All in all, we had a very good time overall, and look fwd to our return there again.
With the arrival of Sunday, the wearing of the winged armor for all those hours and especially walking in the high-heeled hussar cavalry boots took its tool on the body, and I was virtually 'fried' as almost every muscle ached. But it was a good-kind of ache, because we accomplished yet another great victory in sharing our part of Polish history with all others at the Renaissance Pleasure Faire South.
Please show your Solidarnosc' and support for our Polonia History, and look for us at the 'Old Fort MacArthur Days' Los Angeles Military Show in San Pedro, July 11-12, 2009, representing Sobieski at Vienna!!!!
Vivat!
Cheers,
Rik Sulima-Suligowski Fox
Los Angeles, Ca.
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Post by 1stuswingedhussar on May 26, 2009 17:16:20 GMT 1
Yes, these are sites by my friends, Radek Sikora and Bartosz Seidlar. Bart has his own famous re-enactment group now in Warsaw, 'Zolkiewski's Regiment'. Radek is one of the formost researchers in the field of the Polish husaria. -Rik-
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 9, 2009 18:50:14 GMT 1
Greetings,
Just an update on the Husaria Tour of Poland II. We are still looking for folks to join our tour,we are only half full right now. We have some spaces left BUT we do need to fill theses seats if we are to make the trip a reality.
One of the focus' of the tour is visiting the Vivat Vasa event www.zamek- gniew.pl/ . The event centers around a 2 day battle re-enactment and daily life in a 17th century Polish castle featuring winged hussars knights, Kozaks and Swedish opponents, etc, etc. The rest of the tour is spent visiting beautiful cultural and historical sites in Gdansk, Malbork, Torun, Warsaw, Czestochowa and Krakow.
If any of you would like to see or actually participate in this major 17th century event with the winged hussars THIS IS THE YEAR TO DO IT! In 2010 we will focus on another time and theme.
Good news, Mary from PAT Tours has also informed me that August flights have not been cheaper in years.
More good news, right now the zloty is worth more to us this year than last giving you more buying power while you are in Poland.
A lot of hard work has gone into planning this one of a kind trip but we need your support. For you re-enactors and history buffs this is a great opportunity to experience the history of Poland, stay in an 800 year old castle and be thrilled by charging units of Polish winged hussars!!!
The Husaria Tour is August 11-24, 2009. If you have any friends or relatives who would be interested please pass this on to them.
Contact me for a brochure and more details on this unique trip.
Pozdrawiam
Eryk Jadaszewski
Dublin, NH
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 17, 2009 18:20:50 GMT 1
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