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Post by Bonobo on Jun 9, 2008 21:27:27 GMT 1
Bonobo, I live about 10 miles from the Atlantic Ocean. Far enough east for you? I think so. But for me this is the best known image of an American white eagle. More popular than the one in your national emblem. I didn`t pay attention to it before. Now I grasp the idea. In Poland the funds are distributed by the governent and their amount depends on the amount of students at school. The more students, the higher the funding. So, good schools which attract a lot of students get more money. As for the best teachers, they still reside in prestigious big cities, not the countryside which is considered low. Living in Krakow or Warsaw gives you considerable advantage in the eyes of compatriots... Out of this world ;D ;D ;D Wating patiently till paramedics see you off to the ambulance in your new strait jacket? Do you mean this?: ;D ;D ;D Mikem, I am glad you vcant get thoise things in Poland., Don`t yoiu understabnd that all this American stuff abourtr the right to defend tourself, written in you r Constitution ,, is one giant crap? If guns were available to guys easily ion Poaldn, people would be shooting in strets of Wasraw lliek Al Capone inh Chicago! I myslwef get crazy when a guy cuts in on the road and then I feel I could shoot him if I had a gun. That is whyt I am bnot goint to tell you whwerr e you can get thisn guns. |
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Post by locopolaco on Jun 9, 2008 22:50:03 GMT 1
I live in Indiana, and this is the Midwest, and we don't have any rednecks here!!!! hahahahaha.. now, that is funny.  |
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Post by valpomike on Jun 10, 2008 1:53:48 GMT 1
The two guys in the photo are German. They have never been to Indiana, and we won't let them in.
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Post by valpomike on Jun 10, 2008 1:54:45 GMT 1
O.K. we may have one, PL and he lives in Indy.
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Post by jeanne on Jun 10, 2008 2:42:19 GMT 1
I remember reading a book in which a couple of distiguished Americans have a complex because they were born and live to the west of the Hudson River, which suggests some deep American province. By the way, what were you reading? This sounds like something F.Scott Fitzgerald would write in one of his novels... |
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Post by jeanne on Jun 10, 2008 2:51:07 GMT 1
Actually, Mike has a point. I probably should have said simple, unsophisticated people, rather than rednecks. |
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Post by jeanne on Jun 10, 2008 2:58:16 GMT 1
I didn`t pay attention to it before. Now I grasp the idea. In Poland the funds are distributed by the governent and their amount depends on the amount of students at school. The more students, the higher the funding. So, good schools which attract a lot of students get more money. This sounds like a more rational way of funding schools...some better way has to be found in the US before schools run into serious trouble beyond their current problems! Yes, that's exactly what I mean! Bonobo, you are a man of many moods, always mysterious! ;D
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Post by jeanne on Jun 10, 2008 3:04:20 GMT 1
Today, at the school in which I work, we had a little Olympic celebration to acquaint children with the Olympics and what they stand for, etc, etc. since there will be summer games this year.
Each class had to choose a country to represent at the beginning assembly. With little persuasion, I was able to convince the teacher I work with to have our class represent Poland! So, last week in art class, the students colored small Polish flags and today they all dressed in red and white. It was fun and I had a secret sense of self-satisfaction seeing all those innocent children waving Polish flags!
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 10, 2008 11:47:05 GMT 1
Today, at the school in which I work, we had a little Olympic celebration to acquaint children with the Olympics and what they stand for, etc, etc. since there will be summer games this year. Each class had to choose a country to represent at the beginning assembly. With little persuasion, I was able to convince the teacher I work with to have our class represent Poland! So, last week in art class, the students colored small Polish flags and today they all dressed in red and white. It was fun and I had a secret sense of self-satisfaction seeing all those innocent children waving Polish flags! Great! It`s a pity you can`t post us pictures. What about the teacher? Did she put on Poish national colours too?  |
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Post by valpomike on Jun 10, 2008 16:56:25 GMT 1
Do you have any living near you?
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Post by jeanne on Jun 10, 2008 23:41:34 GMT 1
Great! It`s a pity you can`t post us pictures. Our class is such a handful behavior- wise that neither the teacher nor myself took any pictures. The principal was the only one who took any pictures of our class...besides you know I am technologically inept... Since this is the blog thread, I will bore you with the details. Olympic Day was scheduled for last Friday. Everyone in our class showed up sporting red and white, including the teacher and myself. Neither she nor I normally wear red clothing...it's just not our color. Both of us only had one red shirt and both hers and mine were long-sleeved. The weather was cool, so that was not a problem, but also, it was raining quite heavily...and since games were scheduled for outside on the playground, the event was postponed until Monday. Well, over the weekend a heatwave moved into our area with temps in the 90's.Olympic Day dawned hazy, hot and humid! There was no way we were going to wear long-sleeved red shirts to suffer through the day... My teacher colleague did not end up wearing any red...I think she wore blue and white. I wore light colors, but I brought one of those scarves people bring to soccer games in Poland that was red and white and said 'Polska' on it. I draped it around my shoulders until I could not stand it any longer (I believe it was made of wool!)Despite the heat, the children enjoyed the day, and especially the fact that the gym teacher misted them with water after the games to cool them down! |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 11, 2008 10:14:02 GMT 1
Our class is such a handful behavior- wise that neither the teacher nor myself took any pictures. I don`t understand it.... What kind of class is it? It is really appreciated. It is also OK as blue and white are colours of the Polish church. Wow, where did you get it from? No cap?  |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 11, 2008 14:36:50 GMT 1
Is that on the east side of the Hudson River? Like mentioned in the book? Bonobo, I live about 10 miles from the Atlantic Ocean. Far enough east for you? Exactly. Yes, of course I have seen this muppet before, and NOT flying over my neighborhood! Certainly not true here. Remember our discussion about how public education is funded in my state and many others? ...by local property tax? The fancy, rich communities outside the city have the most money and therefore can afford to build the best schools and hire the best teachers. You're right, and I was actually going to quote St Paul about running the good race... As I suspected... you don't know that one. 'Sitting tight' simply means waiting patiently. I've seen you posting in a worse condition... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by jeanne on Jun 11, 2008 23:28:23 GMT 1
I don`t understand it.... What kind of class is it? I am a Special Education Tutor and work with students who have moderate learning disabilities. Last year when the administration was setting up classes for this year, they intended to use what is known in American education as the 'co-teaching model'...that means there would be one regular classroom teacher and one special education teacher working together in the same classroom. For this reason, they placed many special educ. students and many students with other issues ( attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, emotional issues, etc) altogether in the same classroom. The problem was, a new principal came in over the summer who has a different philosophy than the 'co-teaching model', so it never happened when school started. The Spec. Educ. teacher was used in a different manner and I, as a tutor, was placed in the class. The class is a very difficult mix of children because there are so many issues involved behavior-wise. Next year, they will be spread out among 5 classes, so that this problem will not happen again. A few years ago my middle daughter, who is now married and a dairy farmer, had a Polish boyfriend whom she met at her college. She went with him to Poland a couple of times...once to meet his parents and once to go skiing at Zakopane. While she was there on her visit, her boyfriend's father bought it for her as a gift. I hate hats and only wear them when absolutely necessary! |
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Post by gigi on Jun 12, 2008 1:31:28 GMT 1
I am a Special Education Tutor and work with students who have moderate learning disabilities. Last year when the administration was setting up classes for this year, they intended to use what is known in American education as the 'co-teaching model'...that means there would be one regular classroom teacher and one special education teacher working together in the same classroom. For this reason, they placed many special educ. students and many students with other issues ( attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, emotional issues, etc) altogether in the same classroom. I have already mentioned how much respect and appreciation I have for teachers, but you deserve a lot of credit for helping these children. Let's just say I have a lot of personal experience in this area, and it is the caring, compassion, patience, and dedication of teachers like you who make all the difference in the world towards enabling these children to flourish in a classroom setting.  |
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Post by jeanne on Jun 12, 2008 2:10:43 GMT 1
I have already mentioned how much respect and appreciation I have for teachers, but you deserve a lot of credit for helping these children. Let's just say I have a lot of personal experience in this area, and it is the caring, compassion, patience, and dedication of teachers like you who make all the difference in the world towards enabling these children to flourish in a classroom setting. gigi, Thank you for the compliment...I certainly need to hear something like that right about now...it has been a long school year! I can also say that I am one of those people who actually loves my job. I look forward to going to work each day...I love the variety each day brings (when you work with kids, no two days are the same because you never know what direction the day will go), and most of all, I love working with the children! There is nothing more rewarding than seeing the progress they make, and particularly at this time of year reflecting on how far they have come since last Sept.! |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 12, 2008 12:28:30 GMT 1
I am a Special Education Tutor and work with students who have moderate learning disabilities. The class is a very difficult mix of children because there are so many issues involved behavior-wise. Next year, they will be spread out among 5 classes, so that this problem will not happen again. Oh, I see, I didn`t understand this behaviour-wise expression. There are such classes in Poland, too, in kindergarten, primary and junior schools. Integration classes, that`s their name. I was close to send my son to an integrated kindergarten once but decided not to. I wanted to teach him tolerance, but at the same time I was afraid his overall development might not get enough incentive due to the low level of the group. I have observed it in my career, teaching different classes. There were classes in which the majority were lazy bones, school cutters, underachievers. Those few brilliant students who attended them also became lazy and stopped learning with the passage of time, and nothing could be done about it. And I was right about the kindergarten. My colleague sent her daughter to it and regretted immensely, resigned after the first year. The education and care was minimal in the integrated group, e.g., kids watched cartoons all day long. Oh, I remember now, the boy turned out too materialistic.... So do I. I grow my hair longer for the winter to avoid wearing a cap/hat. |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 12, 2008 12:39:26 GMT 1
I have already mentioned how much respect and appreciation I have for teachers, but you deserve a lot of credit for helping these children. Let's just say I have a lot of personal experience in this area, and it is the caring, compassion, patience, and dedication of teachers like you who make all the difference in the world towards enabling these children to flourish in a classroom setting. Yes, it is a difficult job. It reminds me of Si³aczka, Strong Woman, a short story from 19 century about a female teacher who put much effort into educating kids in some remote pit arm village. She was so focused on teaching those rural barbarians that she finally died. She performed the so called fundamental job. |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 12, 2008 12:41:22 GMT 1
Thank you for the compliment...I certainly need to hear something like that right about now...it has been a long school year! I can also say that I am one of those people who actually loves my job. I look forward to going to work each day...I love the variety each day brings (when you work with kids, no two days are the same because you never know what direction the day will go), and most of all, I love working with the children! There is nothing more rewarding than seeing the progress they make, and particularly at this time of year reflecting on how far they have come since last Sept.! Hey, it is just like me! Why are you imitating me? You should ask for copyrights.... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by valpomike on Jun 12, 2008 16:48:49 GMT 1
Good teachers, are great, and poor ones, need be replaced. Sometimes I think a bad teacher is worst than no teacher.
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Post by gigi on Jun 12, 2008 19:11:35 GMT 1
Sometimes I think a bad teacher is worst than no teacher. An ineffective teacher can have a dramatic impact on how a student feels about school. If the experience is a really negative one, it can take a long time to overcome. We then have to rely more heavily on the "good" teachers to undo the damage done by the "bad" ones. |
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Post by valpomike on Jun 12, 2008 20:56:30 GMT 1
We need get rid of all BAD teachers.
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 12, 2008 21:01:59 GMT 1
We need get rid of all BAD teachers. Sorry, Mike, Polish law doesn`t allow it. Don`t you remember our slogan?: Lousy teachers must stay!  |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 12, 2008 21:04:43 GMT 1
Good teachers, are great, and poor ones, need be replaced. Sometimes I think a bad teacher is worst than no teacher. It is a tricky issue. I am wondering about it myself. Is it better to have a lousy teacher of English in a primary school, or to have none and lose the best years of your life to learn a foreign language? When I seperate myself from the problem, I think it is better to have a lousy teacher than none. However, when I correct kids` mistakes they bring from schools, I start feeling very angry and come to conclusion that it is better to have none. |
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Post by valpomike on Jun 12, 2008 21:06:53 GMT 1
What can, and must be done to correct this?
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Post by jeanne on Jun 13, 2008 0:57:39 GMT 1
[You should ask for copyrights.... ;D ;D ;D No need for copyrights...it would be great if as many teachers as possible would express similar sentiments!
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Post by jeanne on Jun 13, 2008 1:21:30 GMT 1
Oh, I see, I didn`t understand this behaviour-wise expression. There are such classes in Poland, too, in kindergarten, primary and junior schools. Integration classes, that`s their name. I was close to send my son to an integrated kindergarten once but decided not to. I wanted to teach him tolerance, but at the same time I was afraid his overall development might not get enough incentive due to the low level of the group. I have observed it in my career, teaching different classes. There were classes in which the majority were lazy bones, school cutters, underachievers. Those few brilliant students who attended them also became lazy and stopped learning with the passage of time, and nothing could be done about it. And I was right about the kindergarten. My colleague sent her daughter to it and regretted immensely, resigned after the first year. The education and care was minimal in the integrated group, e.g., kids watched cartoons all day long. Yes, here these classes are also called integrated classrooms. And, it can definitely happen that there may be a negative effect on good students from being in one of these classes if the ratio of learning disabled to others is high. To some extent we have seen this happen in our class this year, not with the academics, but with the behavior. On the other hand, the teaching methods we provide for the children with learning disabilities are just solid, good, productive teaching practices...good for all learners.The solution, I think, to this problem is to make sure there are many positive role-model students in the class to set the example for the learning disabled, then this type of class can benefit all... ...we're not allowed to let kids watch cartoons...every video or dvd they watch has to have educational value which is directly related to the curriculum! |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 13, 2008 9:48:29 GMT 1
What can, and must be done to correct this? Mike, it is very complicated matter. There are generally not enough teachers of English in Poland. That is why headmasters hire biology teachers who finished English refresher courses. Why not enough? To be a proficient user of English is hard to achieve for an average Pole. Yes, there are many Poles, especially young, who speak English quite well but it is still too low to be able to teach it. Our languages are totally different, despite certain vocabulary similarities, and unless you are a brilliant and hard working student, you will never reach the level of or close to native speaker`s. As a rule Polish students are intelligent but only few are really brilliant enough to master English so that they could become teachers. In each class I teach there is one or two students who have certain potential to fulfill the requirements. That is the situation today. Poland is developing all the time. More and more people are studying at colleges. If not them, maybe their children will be more brilliant than parents. |
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Post by Bonobo on Jun 13, 2008 9:54:04 GMT 1
...we're not allowed to let kids watch cartoons...every video or dvd they watch has to have educational value which is directly related to the curriculum! Polish teachers are freer in their choice of methods. No regulations for such things. In my son`s school kids who finish lessons and are waiting to be collected by parents, watch DVD cartoons, different evryr day. I think it is a breach of copyright. ;D |
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Post by jeanne on Jun 13, 2008 11:52:03 GMT 1
...we're not allowed to let kids watch cartoons...every video or dvd they watch has to have educational value which is directly related to the curriculum! Polish teachers are freer in their choice of methods. No regulations for such things. In my son`s school kids who finish lessons and are waiting to be collected by parents, watch DVD cartoons, different evryr day. I think it is a breach of copyright. ;D Oh, well that is a different story. With our previous principal, not the current one, students used to watch movies in the gym before school after being dropped off by the buses until it was time for school to begin. They also watched during recess if the weather was inclement. These movies were for entertainment only... |
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