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Post by Bonobo on Jan 6, 2017 17:05:59 GMT 1
Certain history teacher from Taiwan staged a play based on Hitler times motifs, with students dressed as Nazis and he didn`t suspect it would cause a shock.    Have we already reached the times when Nazism is pure history? I don`t mean neo Nazis in the world who are dreaming of reviving it, I mean ordinary people who don`t see anything indecent in such plays. Yes, it must be a matter of time. This Taiwanese teacher was too early, but in 50 years time such shows will be normal. |
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Post by jeanne on Jan 6, 2017 22:03:13 GMT 1
Certain historical teacher from Taiwan staged a play based on Hitler times motifs, with students dressed as Nazis and didn`t suspect it would cause a shock. Have we already reached the times when Nazism is pure history? I don`t mean neo Nazis in the world who are dreaming of reviving it, I mean ordinary people who don`t see anything indecent in such plays. Yes, it must be a matter of time. This Taiwanese teacher was too early, but in 50 years time such shows will be normal. I guess it depends entirely on the message of the play. What was the point and what were they trying to say? The possibility is there to use the medium of a play to teach some very pertinent truths about Nazism. Nazism may have now reached the point of pure history, but the most valuable lessons for humankind lay in history. What's that saying?...Those who are ignorant of the past are condemned to repeat it? Wise words. |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 6, 2017 22:21:09 GMT 1
I guess it depends entirely on the message of the play. What was the point and what were they trying to say?
The Taipei Times said that one of the school's teachers, Liu Hsi-cheng, had suggested Arabic culture as the theme for the parade but the students decided to go with Adolf Hitler after two rounds of voting.
The paper said some students opted for the Nazis for the Christmas and Thanksgiving Costume Parade because they could easily convert their school uniforms.
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Post by jeanne on Jan 6, 2017 22:39:50 GMT 1
I guess it depends entirely on the message of the play. What was the point and what were they trying to say?
The Taipei Times said that one of the school's teachers, Liu Hsi-cheng, had suggested Arabic culture as the theme for the parade but the students decided to go with Adolf Hitler after two rounds of voting.
The paper said some students opted for the Nazis for the Christmas and Thanksgiving Costume Parade because they could easily convert their school uniforms.
Hmmm...that is a bit worrisome. I hope maybe something is getting lost in the translation of the Taipei Times article... |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 8, 2017 13:53:25 GMT 1
[/i][/quote]Hmmm...that is a bit worrisome. I hope maybe something is getting lost in the translation of the Taipei Times article... [/quote] Various articles suggest students organise such parades annually. The topic of each is chosen through voting. |
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Post by pjotr on Jan 8, 2017 23:24:21 GMT 1
Bonobo and Jeanne, Maybe they shoud reform nazism, because they forgot about the past in which Adolf Hilter warned for the Asian Bolsjewist threat. Nazi's were know to be not that consequent. Sovjets were Asian Bolsjewists, but their Asian alies from Japan too. Sometimes I have the impression that in some Asian nations, despite their intelligence they lack intelligence in the field of European history. I have seen news items like this before, but then about South-Korea, India, Indonesia and China.  Nazi fashion is popular in some Asian countrieswww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042097/Student-Nazi-dress-day-causes-outrage-Thailand.htmlI think clearly the lack of knowledge about the Second World War and the Holocaust causes such incidents. I don't think many Asians are real Nazi's, because they aren't white, North European and Germanic (the ideal race of the Nazi ideology, blond, blue eyed, tall, Scandinavian Vikings).    Cheers, Pieter |
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Post by jeanne on Jan 8, 2017 23:50:24 GMT 1
Bonobo and Jeanne, Maybe they shoud reform nazism, because they forgot about the past in which Adolf Hilter warned for the Asian Bolsjewist threat. Nazi's were know to be not that consequent. Sovjets were Asian Bolsjewists, but their Asian alies from Japan too. Sometimes I have the impression that in some Asian nations, despite their intelligence they lack intelligence in the field of European history. I have seen news items like this before, but then about South-Korea, India, Indonesia and China. Pieter, Having worked in a high school recently, I'm wondering if part of this problem may just be the time that has passed since WWII and the ages of these young students. I know the high school students I worked with really had no concept of the issues involved in WWII...they "had no clue" as young people would say. I see this as a failure of either our culture or our school systems to pass along this understanding to them. Hopefully, as they mature, and possibly attend college, they will come to a greater sensitivity and understanding. One can only hope... Jeanne |
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Post by Bonobo on Apr 10, 2017 19:58:41 GMT 1
A Dutch retailer has been forced to apologise after it unwittingly sold a colour-by-numbers book featuring Adolf Hitler. The dictator was pictured making a Nazi salute and wearing a Swastika armband. Kruidvat, the Dutch drugstore chain stocking it, said they "deeply regretted the incident" and immediately withdrew the product. The book was produced in India and it is remains unclear why Hitler was included. "My suspicion is that the man who created the colouring book got a book of famous people out of the closet and selected a pair, which unfortunately included Adolf Hitler. Maybe he did not recognize him," a spokesperson for the Belgian publisher Trifora told local media. The publisher explained the book, Kleuren op Code, included significant historical figures such as Nelson Mandela, Albert Einstein and Abraham Lincoln. "It is a nasty combination of circumstances. We check the book on translations, but do not check all the colouring pictures," the spokesperson said. The Dutch retailer was only alerted after the book had gone on sale and shocked parents began posting comments on social media. One parent posted an image of the page with the caption: "Nice, your colouring book!" Another customer called it a "disgrace" on the company's Facebook page. Kruidvat said it was only on sale for half a day and was immediately removed from shelves when the problem came to light. The company said it was investigating how the image ended up in the book and was offering full refunds to customers who bought copies.   www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39514166 |
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Post by jeanne on Apr 10, 2017 20:48:44 GMT 1
At least the coloring book image doesn't portray him in a very positive light! The scowl suits him...
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 5, 2019 22:12:34 GMT 1
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Post by jeanne on Dec 6, 2019 18:26:54 GMT 1
Christmas decorations with Auschwitz motiffs, available from US Amazon. I read about these "ornaments" in the news feeds on the internet...they didn't post any pictures of them, however. They are indeed bizarre and disturbing! It's sad how certain elements in our present world/culture have twisted the celebration of Christmas in such ways... |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 7, 2019 22:25:55 GMT 1
They are indeed bizarre and disturbing! I wonder if someone was trying to unnerve Jews with such silly stuff. Or, a completely freaked theory, it is anti Polish Jews` concept to further promote death camps as Polish responsibility. Anything is possible today. |
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Post by jeanne on Dec 17, 2019 1:43:46 GMT 1
I wonder if someone was trying to unnerve Jews with such silly stuff. Or, a completely freaked theory, it is anti Polish Jews` concept to further promote death camps as Polish responsibility. Anything is possible today. I agree...the thought processes of many people today are just incomprehensible...What ever happened to kindness and decency, or plain old-fashioned virtue for that matter...? |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 17, 2019 20:39:34 GMT 1
I agree...the thought processes of many people today are just incomprehensible...What ever happened to kindness and decency, or plain old-fashioned virtue for that matter...? Was there really more kindness and decency in the past? Or are we embellishing things today coz we prefer not to remember how indecent we used to be when young?  |
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Post by naukowiec on Dec 17, 2019 22:40:07 GMT 1
Christmas decorations with Auschwitz motiffs Blimey, they are absolutely in the poorest taste possible! Who would buy this? It's sad how certain elements in our present world/culture have twisted the celebration of Christmas in such ways I wonder if someone was trying to unnerve Jews with such silly stuff My personal thoughts on this are that some people will try to make money out of anything, no matter how tacky or distasteful. Society has sadly become completely materialistic  Was there really more kindness and decency in the past? I think so. People seem to care less about each other, and don't look out for others as they used to years ago. That's my experience anyway. People are out for number one and have grown selfish. Not everyone of course, there will always be decent people, but I think the family is in decline, at least in my country. Respect has gone out of the window. Now I am starting to sound like my mother...... each generation berates the one before it! |
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Post by jeanne on Dec 17, 2019 22:58:00 GMT 1
I agree...the thought processes of many people today are just incomprehensible...What ever happened to kindness and decency, or plain old-fashioned virtue for that matter...? Was there really more kindness and decency in the past? Or are we embellishing things today coz we prefer not to remember how indecent we used to be when young? It seems to me there is a great lack of respect nowadays...and nothing is sacred anymore! If relativism is the prevalent philosophy of today, which it seems to be, and everyone decides for themselves what is right or wrong for them alone, then of course there is no longer a moral structure to society and it begins to degenerate. That's precisely what is happening today. Also, the internet and news media have a lot to do with exposing us to all this degeneracy that is going on. In years gone by we were not constantly exposed to it, so I guess it did exist, but I don't think it existed to the degree it does today. People imitate what they see in the media...and it begins to be the accepted norm for behavior. |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 18, 2019 23:14:35 GMT 1
My personal thoughts on this are that some people will try to make money out of anything, Yes, after rethinking my conspiracy theories about anti-Jewish or anti-Polish sentiments/provocations, that is the most plausible answer. It seems to me there is a great lack of respect nowadays...a Respect has gone out of the window. Dear guys, don`t forget that respect in the past was forcefully imposed on people in the process of education. Once kids were taught respect with the blows of a ruler and kneeling on dried peas. Today it is impossible and kids are free from corporal punishments. Shall we bring it back? each generation berates the one before it! It is called: O tempora, o mores! |
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Post by jeanne on Dec 18, 2019 23:38:56 GMT 1
It seems to me there is a great lack of respect nowadays...a Respect has gone out of the window. Dear guys, don`t forget that respect in the past was forcefully imposed on people in the process of education. Once kids were taught respect with the blows of a ruler and kneeling on dried peas. Today it is impossible and kids are free from corporal punishments. Shall we bring it back? Hmmm...I'm not sure that was the only way that respect was taught. It was also taught by parents who expected it of their children, and it was taught by adults who set the example by treating others with respect! No, we shouldn't bring back corporal punishments (which were actually a form of disrespect toward children), but we should definitely bring back respect!! |
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Post by naukowiec on Dec 21, 2019 9:49:34 GMT 1
Once kids were taught respect with the blows of a ruler and kneeling on dried peas. Thankfully those times are past, but corporal punishment teaches respect out of fear, never a good idea. The problem now is that parents aren't teaching their children respect and good manners. |
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