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Post by pjotr on Mar 19, 2017 14:34:50 GMT 1
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Post by pjotr on Mar 19, 2017 14:35:27 GMT 1
How did the Polish press and fans reacted to the passing of this Rock 'n Roll legend?
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Post by pjotr on Mar 19, 2017 14:37:29 GMT 1
wyborcza.pl/7,113768,21517617,chuck-berry-nie-zyje-mial-90-lat-byl-prawdziwa-legend-rock.html
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Post by pjotr on Mar 19, 2017 14:39:41 GMT 1
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Post by jeanne on Mar 20, 2017 13:01:22 GMT 1
How did the Polish press and fans reacted to the passing of this Rock 'n Roll legend? Hi Pieter, I don't know the answer to your question about the reaction of Polish press and fans, but I can tell you my reaction to Chuck Berry's death. I grew up with his music, going way back to the time when I was a very young child and my older cousins were always listening to the Rock 'n Roll music of the times. He was a constant during my teenage years, and his songs bring to mind many memories both happy and sad from that time in my life. Chuck Berry's songs were always upbeat and energizing for listeners. I still enjoy hearing them and singing along. It's sad to lose the old legends of the music world, but also it is occasion for us to reflect on the musical legacy they have left through the works of other musicians following after them! Jeanne
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 19:17:26 GMT 1
A great hard rock cover by Motörhead, Lemmy, another dead Rock 'n Roll legend
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 19:40:20 GMT 1
Chuck Berry had a great influence on the British beatmusic of the Sixties.
"Back in the U.S.A." is a song written by Chuck Berry that was released in 1959 and was a top 40 hit. A cover version in 1978 by Linda Ronstadt was also a hit.
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 19:44:09 GMT 1
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 19:58:23 GMT 1
Dear Jeanne,,
You grew up with his music, and therefor the music of Chuck was part of your life. His music has an emotional meaning in your life, because his songs were connected to postive and negative memories. For me Berry was important, because he laid a basis (fundament) for Rock 'n Roll and rock music, because he merged Rythem 'n Blues and swing and created single handedly a new music style.
Next to Big Joe Turner ("Shake, Rattle and Roll"), Bo Diddley, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis he was one of the Godfathers of Rock 'n Roll.
Chuck Berry's songs laid the foundation for the rock music, rock 'n roll and pop rock, Punk and New Wave music I liked as a child and teenager. Without Berry and these other founders of Rock 'n Roll we wouldn't have had the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Who, The Doors, The Velvet Underground (Lou Reed), David Bowie, Roxy Music, the Police, U2, Blondie, the Pretenders, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal and a lot of the present day Pop Music (the music of the sixties, seventies, eighties and nineties).
I say it again I don't think we lose the old legend Chuck Berry, because his music lives on in the recordings of his music. His long play records (vinyl), audio cassette tapes, audio music cd's, Mp3's, Itunes tracks, Spotify tunes, and youtubes won't go away. His music is to important for many musicians, fans and thus listeners all over the world.
Other music indeed will continue to create covers of Chuck Berry songs and will make their own versions of it.
Cheers, Pieter
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 20:17:37 GMT 1
Dear Bo, The exiting music of Rock 'n Roll, Rhythem 'n Blues, Old school American Jazz must have been popular in Poland, because it was Western music, exiting and because the communist authorities weren't fond of it I suppose. It must have been a rebellious act for young Poles back them to listen to Western music via Radio Luxemburg (like my mother did in Warsaw), or via Radio Free Europe. Maybe some people smuggled Western records to Poland and maybe music was copied in Poland illegaly. Rock 'n Roll, Rock and Hard Rock had some reputation as music for rebels, of a counter culture of youth. I remember in my youth that rockers wore thick leather jackets, old jeans, Cowboy boots or army boots and had the duck's ass haircut style, a stereotypical feature of rebels and nonconformists, and rock 'n roll legend Elvis Presley, who sported the same look. In my remote part of the Netherlands you had a Nozem kind of youth culture with kids wearing Southern-USA flags on their back with the image of Elvis. Dutch Nozems, rockers. ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nozem ) The Southern confederate flag rockers could cause some traubles and had conflicts with other youths. I was different than them and thus had to take care not to be caught by them and beaten up. They were like the Polish git ludzie' or ' gitmeni', aggresive Polish guys who later transformed into punks or skin heads according to Tufta. The Polish hippies were in local opposition to groups called ' git ludzie' or ' gitmeni'. My musical taste and being a loner was strange to them. I liked a sort of Indie kind of music back then. New Wave, The Police and U2, which was considered alternative or progressive in the late seventies and early eighties. The South-West of the Netherlands was a little version of the South of the USA. The only difference was that we had the North sea and the sea climate of the North-West European region. Cheers, Pieter
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 20:34:37 GMT 1
Dutch Youth subculture associated with Rock 'n Roll. The old fashionate, conservative and traditional society in the Netherlands considered these outcasts as thugs, rebellious youth and thus scum. It was a time that the Netherlands was still a pillarized society with the Roman-Catholic, Protestant (Calvinist), Socialist and General (secular liberal upperclass and high class) pillars. Later out of this working class moped gangs called Nozems the Dutch branch of the Hells Angels was developped.
Nozems were thugs and did things like this.
Amsterdam Nozems became Hells Angels
These Amsterdam bikers speak in a Heavy Amsterdam working class dialect. The Nozems were a typical working class phenomenon.
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 21:00:07 GMT 1
Dutch sixties and seventies music influenced by American rock 'n roll of Chuck Berry, Little Richards, Buddy Holly and the British beat music.
All this music wouldn't be there without Chuck Berry. His music first influenced British Beat music and the British Beat music influenced Dutch and other European (German, French, Austrian, Italian, Polish, Czech, Hungarian) bands, and probably these bands influenced British and American bands. I know that the Outsiders and Focus were appreciated by American and British musicians, but never entered the American or British charts.
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 21:08:00 GMT 1
Dutch hits that entered the American charts. These hits wouldn't have existed if the American Rock 'n Roll and Rhythem 'n Blues wouldn't have existed and wouldn't have created the British Beat music of the Beatles and Rolling Stones. These British bands were the inspiration of these Dutch bands.
Now enough Dutch stuf I hope that Rock 'n Roll had great influence on Central- and Eastern-European bands. I hope and I am sure that there were great Polish musicians. I remember Turbo.
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 21:15:09 GMT 1
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 21:25:17 GMT 1
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 21:29:26 GMT 1
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Post by pjotr on Mar 20, 2017 21:37:22 GMT 1
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 25, 2017 20:56:03 GMT 1
How did the Polish press and fans reacted to the passing of this Rock 'n Roll legend? I could read about on all news portals. I knew him and some of his songs but I have never been a fan of original rock and roll. He simply didn`t belong to my generation.
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Post by pjotr on Mar 26, 2017 14:47:41 GMT 1
Dear Bo,
I understand that. He wasn't of my generation to, but I found out about his songs and music later on when I discovered that musicians I liked played covers of his songs and praised him. 'Our' Hard Rock and Heavy metal (the music of our generation) wouldn't have existed if Chuck Berry and other guys didn't influenced European music like they did. So indirectly the music you liked existed due to Chuck Berry and others.
Cheers, Pieter
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Post by Bonobo on Mar 26, 2017 18:02:41 GMT 1
Dear Bo, I understand that. He wasn't of my generation to, but I found out about his songs and music later on when I discovered that musicians I liked played covers of his songs and praised him. 'Our' Hard Rock and Heavy metal (the music of our generation) wouldn't have existed if Chuck Berry and other guys didn't influenced European music like they did. So indirectly the music you liked existed due to Chuck Berry and others. Cheers, Pieter You are right. On the other hand, we don`t drive old Beetle cars when much modern ones are available.
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Post by pjotr on Mar 26, 2017 23:22:30 GMT 1
You got a point there Bo!
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