Post by Bonobo on Jan 17, 2019 10:34:27 GMT 1
But we do have heavy foreign migrant crime over here in the Netherlands Bonobo.
Indigenous organized crime based in some of The Netherlands' major cities, mainly Amsterdam and The Hague, mostly has origins in the traditional working-class quarters.
Another type of indigenous organized crime is mainly based in the Flemish regions bordering the Netherlands, mainly located in the provinces of Limburg and Antwerp.
Out of the Netherlands' substantial Moroccan community also grew criminal gangs mostly involved in the trafficking of marihuana.
The word kejahatan is Indonesian for 'committing crime' and has since become a synonym for Moluccan organized crime.
Criminal groups consisting of descendants of Afro-Surinamese and Afro-Curaçaoan immigrants exist in major cities in the Netherlands.
Aside from these Netherlands-originated groups, gangs that originated in the Caribbean have also been able to set up shop in the Netherlands.
The Netherlands is the only country in Europe where the Crips have a significant presence.The groups are mainly composed of Dutch Antilleans (mainly Afro-Curaçaoans) and Afro-Surinamese people.
The penose concerns organized criminal groups with ties to the country of the Netherlands itself. Due to immigration there are strong Turkish, Chinese, Yugoslav, Russian, Albanian and Italian communities in the Netherlands. Criminal outfits such as the Turkish mafia, Triads, Serbian mafia, Russian mafia, Albanian mafia, and the 'Ndrangheta are not regarded as a part of the traditional Penose (native Dutch organised crime groups), although they're an active part of the Dutch criminal underworld nonetheless. The reason why Surinamese, Antillean, Moroccan and Ambonese groups are considered to be a part of the Penose is because their criminal groups were formed and based in the Netherlands, whereas the Turkish or Serb gangs are part of a criminal group based in their home country.
This is a quote from another thread where we discussed exotic/foreign crime in European countries.
polandsite.proboards.com/post/38454
The Netherlands has multiple minorities from its past colonies, you mentioned them above in the list of crime groups, e,g., Indonesia, Surinam, Africa.
I wonder how much those exotic immigrants who, after the collapse of the colonial system, were allowed to settle in your country felt rejected by native society and in result turned to crime because that was what they thought the best in their situation.
By rejection I don`t mean a total ban on their presence in the public life, because there wasn`t such. I mean simple suspicion or reserve expressed to them on a daily basis in conversations, streets, schools, restaurants etc. You know the origin of the reserve that one might feel towards immigrants - they look different from us, they speak Dutch with a strange accent or even another language, they don`t understand our culture and vice versa. They are generally alien to us, so let`s be careful because nobody knows what might happen or what they might do.
Did these feelings from native communities that immigrants received have an influence on the outcome of the adaptation in the new country? Did they actually limit their chances of finding good jobs or getting better education?. Seeing poor prospects of integrating into a native society, It could have seemed natural for them to turn to other ways of bettering their life - crime.
I have always wondered about that issue because I am still at a loss about the exotic immigrant problem. Sometimes I am for, sometimes against.
Statistics suggest that immigrants or refugees are responsible for the rise of crime in new places. It is suggested that they deliberately refuse to integrate into a new country, but instead prefer to keep close relations within their ethnic group.
German example
By the 2010s most organized crime in Germany was committed by citizens of other countries.[27] In 2017 proportion of non-German citizen suspects increased from 67.5% to 70.7% while the proportion of German citizens decreased correspondingly.[26] For the German citizens, 14.9% had a different citizenship at birth.[26]
For several types of crime and drug crime in particular, organised crime gangs were dominated by people from countries with high rates of immigration to Germany.[10] In 2017, the most common nationality of foreign organized crime gangs was Albanian with 21 gangs, the great majority of which were active in drug trafficking.[10] In 2017 there were 13 identified Serbian organized crime gangs, active in drug crime, property crime and violent crime.[10] In 2017 there were 12 Kosovar gangs, active in property crime, drug trade and forgeries.[10] Syrian gangs were active in drug trade and drug smuggling.[10]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime_in_Germany
In an opinion piece in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung in September 2018, the political scientist Ralph Ghadban [de] argued that federal authorities had refused to recognise the specific problem of organized crime gangs based on family ties and ethnicity (Clan-Kriminalität [de]), subsuming it under "organised crime" and that, encouraged by the success of the Arab clans, families from other ethnic groups, including Chechens, Albanians, and Kosovars were developing similar structures. According to Ghadban, these structures present a threat to liberal, individualised societies because they hinder integration. A modern society, he says, only functions when people voluntarily follow its rules, but clan members consider themselves members of a family rather than citizens of a country, and do not submit to the rule of law, regarding individuals who do so as weak and unprotected.[29]
Recent statistics from Germany
Anti-immigrant parties have long linked Muslim immigration to crime, but verifiable data to support their arguments have been scarce, not least because police services and statistical agencies have been reluctant to track this aspect of criminality so as not to increase tension in societies. That makes a newly published German study an important reference point. It's one of the first attempts to measure the effect the refugee wave of 2015 and 2016 has had on violent crime in Germany, and while it can be construed to support parts of the anti-immigrant agenda, it also suggests reasonable policies to mitigate the problems.
Conducted by Christian Pfeiffer, Dirk Baier and Soeren Kliem of the Zurich University of Applied Sciences, the government-commissioned study uses material from Germany's fourth-most-populous state, Lower Saxony, home to Volkswagen. About 750,000 of its 8 million residents don't have German citizenship, and, according to official data for the end of 2016, about 170,000 of them had applied for asylum. That's also the fourth-highest number in Germany. The researchers asked for data that specifically concerned asylum applicants, both successful and unsuccessful, who had arrived in 2015 and 2016. The state police -- in keeping with the unspoken taboo -- hadn't published such statistics, but they obliged the research team. It turned out the asylum seekers had reversed the decreasing violent crime trend in Lower Saxony. While such crime went down by 21.9 percent between 2007 and 2014, it was up again by 10.4 percent by the end of 2016. Some 83 percent of the cases were solved -- and 92.1 percent of the increase was attributable to the newcomers.
That's a number the anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany, which got into parliament last year thanks to its vocal opposition to Chancellor Angela Merkel's decision to let in more than a million asylum seekers, could inscribe on its banner. Other data points are also damning. Between 2014 and 2016, the share of solved violent crimes attributed to asylum seekers increased to 13.3 percent from 4.3 percent -- a disproportionately high share compared with the state's foreign population.
www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42557828