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Post by naukowiec on Dec 29, 2019 21:56:25 GMT 1
Maybe not everyone will agree but some of the best chocolate I've had has been from Poland. This Christmas I was given a box of sweet and sour plums ( śliwka ) by a company I hadn't heard of before, Goplana. I have tried plums in chocolate before, by a company called Solidarność, but these ones are even nicer and very moreish. I am also addicted to Wawel chocolates, particularly the tiramisu and advocaat ones. E Wedel also do good chocolate, but Wawel is the best in my opinion. If anyone has any recommendations for chocolate and sweets, list them here!
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Post by naukowiec on Dec 29, 2019 22:00:43 GMT 1
Same problem as before, once image location is copied and pasted, the pic is posted with no option to edit or add more pics. Here are my favourite Wawel chocs:   |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 29, 2019 23:34:20 GMT 1
by a company I hadn't heard of before, Goplana. I know Goplana makes bars of chocolates for lower shelves - cheap and not bad. E Wedel also do good chocolate, but Wawel is the best in my opinion. These are producers which already operated before the war. Tradition imposes obligations on quality, sort of. Same problem as before, once image location is copied and pasted, the pic is posted with no option to edit or add more pics. You mean you can`t go back to the posted post and edit it? Strange, I have no idea why. |
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Post by naukowiec on Dec 29, 2019 23:46:31 GMT 1
These chocolate plums don't taste cheap, they are lovely! There's no edit button. Once the pic has been posted the only button I can click on is create new thread button in bottom right hand corner. |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 30, 2019 1:17:56 GMT 1
These chocolate plums don't taste cheap, they are lovely! There's no edit button. Once the pic has been posted the only button I can click on is create new thread button in bottom right hand corner. Yes, I agree but to be honest, I tried various producers and all their chocolate plums taste the same to me.  Strange but it happens only when you start a new thread with your first post, right? That`s sth we can still put up with, luckily, coz I don`t know yet how to solve this mystery. Just make another post with more pics. Apart from Goplana and Solidarność plums, there are also such producers as: Wawel, Jutrzenka, Mateo, Bard etc.
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Post by naukowiec on Dec 31, 2019 9:27:36 GMT 1
I tried various producers and all their chocolate plums taste the same to me. The only way I can know for sure is to try out all the other brands for myself, purely in the interests of quality control you understand  but it happens only when you start a new thread with your first post, right? Yep, not a real problem, will just do what I did before, add additional pics in the second post. Another confectionery item popular with Poles over here is Ptasie Mleczko ( Bird's milk? ), which comes in a variety of flavours. To be honest, I'm not terribly fond of them, the marshmallow type filling tastes very synthetic to me.   |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 31, 2019 15:01:23 GMT 1
The only way I can know for sure is to try out all the other brands for myself, purely in the interests of quality control you understand Another confectionery item popular with Poles over here is Ptasie Mleczko ( Bird's milk? ), which comes in a variety of flavours. To be honest, I'm not terribly fond of them, the marshmallow type filling tastes very synthetic to me. Yes, try them out but you will see practically no difference. It is not a big deal to take a pruned plum and cover it with chocolate. As for mleczko, it certainly suits the thread: Things I have always disliked. I just can`t swallow it, when a boy, I was afraid I would vomit after eating it. Probably it was due to my vivid imagination and I connected the product too closely with that crop milk regurgitated by birds. |
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 31, 2019 16:43:10 GMT 1
I know Goplana makes bars of chocolates for lower shelves - cheap and not bad. My fav one is coconut - with big shreds of coconut which get stuck between teeth:  |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 2, 2020 9:45:06 GMT 1
It is not a big deal to take a pruned plum and cover it with chocolate. Then it is not a big deal to take any filling and cover it with chocolate. Chocolatiers and confectioners take note! I connected the product too closely with that crop milk regurgitated by birds. I wish I hadn't read this, because now I will never be able to look at ptasie mleczko again without that vision in my head. big shreds of coconut which get stuck between teeth: That is probably why I wouldn't eat that. I remember trying the coconut version of Ferrero Rocher, and regretting it. I hate eating anything which means I have to spend ages with toothpicks afterwards! I must admit, I haven't seen many Goplana products here at all, it's usually Wawel or E Wedel. |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 2, 2020 21:20:44 GMT 1
Then it is not a big deal to take any filling and cover it with chocolate. Chocolatiers and confectioners take note! I wish I hadn't read this, because now I will never be able to look at ptasie mleczko again without that vision in my head. That is probably why I wouldn't eat that. I remember trying the coconut version of Ferrero Rocher, and regretting it. I hate eating anything which means I have to spend ages with toothpicks afterwards! I must admit, I haven't seen many Goplana products here at all, it's usually Wawel or E Wedel. No, any filling won`t work coz you need that plum with its slight sourness. Only then the taste becomes delicious when sweet cholocate is combined with a sour plum. I am sorry. I suspected it a little before posting but eventually decided that you knew Polish "ptasie mleczko" means bird milk. And the only "milk" they produce is from their crops and through the beaks out. I thought you realised that. Toothpicks are obsolete. Use dental floss. Yes, coz it is keot on the bottom economic shelf in Poland so it won`t appear in the UK. |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 3, 2020 9:48:27 GMT 1
the only "milk" they produce is from their crops and through the beaks out. I thought you realised that. I did, but I hadn't put 2 and 2 together. Your post did just that for me! I use those little interdental brushes, never quite got the hang of dental floss. coz it is keot on the bottom economic shelf in Poland so it won`t appear in the UK. Oh dear, it appears I've picked the dregs of Polish chocolate! |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 3, 2020 13:34:45 GMT 1
Your post did just that for me! I use those little interdental brushes, never quite got the hang of dental floss. Oh dear, it appears I've picked the dregs of Polish chocolate! Yes, we do get a revelation from time to time. Wow, I didn`t know such gadgets exist. This is a complete revelation to me.  Dregs, but quite tasty. Even among dregs can one find a pearl. |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 5, 2020 9:28:07 GMT 1
I didn`t know such gadgets exist. You've never seen these? If I go anywhere where there's a Rossmann I stock up on them because in the UK they're expensive.  Even among dregs can one find a pearl. My plums in chocolate Yesetrday I was talking about chocolate to a friend. She remembers bars of Wawel chocolate that were given names, Danusia ( coffee, mint or chocolate and nut filling ), Jacek ( orange filling ), Ikar, Maciek ( toffee ) and Adaś. I think these were around in communist times.    She was also telling me about something called compound chocolate, which contains cocoa, vegetable fat and sweeteners. She said it tasted disgusting. I can't find a picture of it, but she remembers a bar called Kaja produced by E Wedel. I think it was a cheap version of chocolate that didn't really taste much like chocolate. For those interested in the history of Polish chocolate, this is a nice little article: culture.pl/en/article/history-chocolate-poland |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 5, 2020 23:40:16 GMT 1
You've never seen these? If I go anywhere where there's a Rossmann I stock up on them because in the UK they're expensive. bars of Wawel chocolate that were given names, Danusia ( coffee, mint or chocolate and nut filling ), I think these were around in communist times. She was also telling me about something called compound chocolate, which contains cocoa, vegetable fat and sweeteners. She said it tasted disgusting. I can't find a picture of it, but she remembers a bar called Kaja produced by E Wedel. I think it was a cheap version of chocolate that didn't really taste much like chocolate. Never. I have been to Rossman only once in my lifetime - whenever my wife needs to go there, I am waiting outside. Yes, I remember Danusia, it was one of cheapest bars available, not too tasty. Whenever a kid got it as a present, they frowned with disgust. Only very desperate kids were happy. Prince Polo was much better. Funny, it was pronounced [printze]. Compound chocolate? Yes, in Polish called chocolate-like product. Veritable shit, I think I tried it once out of curiosity and then never again. Its only advantage was full supply without any limits. But I prefered to rely on true chocolote from the rationing system.  |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 8, 2020 20:50:45 GMT 1
I have been to Rossman only once in my lifetime Unbelievable! I really like that shop I remember Danusia, it was one of cheapest bars available, not too tasty. Whenever a kid got it as a present, they frowned with disgust So was Wawel on a par with Goplana at one time then? Prince Polo was much better. That looks like a chocolate wafer bar that we have called Blue Riband  I get the feeling it might be similar to cooking chocolate that I remember from childhood, it tasted awful. I prefered to rely on true chocolote from the rationing system. How much was allowed per month or did it depend on availability? |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 10, 2020 12:31:40 GMT 1
Unbelievable! I really like that shop So was Wawel on a par with Goplana at one time then? I get the feeling it might be similar to cooking chocolate that I remember from childhood, it tasted awful. How much was allowed per month or did it depend on availability? I have had no chance to like it or not coz I don`t need to buy there anything which I can`t buy during our usual Friday evening shopping in the hypermarket. Now I don`t remember so well. I had other problems on mind then and didn`t actually care about those producers. But as for Goplana`s products, I have to correct my earlier opinion about it suiting economic budget. Last time we went shopping I checked the prices and although their chocolates are placed on the bottom shelf, indeed, they cost the same as quality ones, e..g, Milka. Yes, here, as kids, we also did various silly things. E..g, my sister tried to make mint chewing gum. hahaha The worst times were around the martial law and the availability was risky even despite the fact you wanted to trade your rationing coupons. In 1982 the assigned amount was about 100 grams of chocolate and 250 grams of candies for adult and as far as I remember, twice as much for kids. 1982 means the year.  |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 11, 2020 10:12:40 GMT 1
I have to correct my earlier opinion about it suiting economic budget. Last time we went shopping I checked the prices and although their chocolates are placed on the bottom shelf, indeed, they cost the same as quality ones, e..g, Milka. Goplana have obviously gone up in the world! even despite the fact you wanted to trade your rationing coupons. What would you trade them for? Not chocolate as the ration coupons below have sweets and chocolates already on them. I'm slightly confused here. That coupon is easier to understand. Flour, sweets, sugar, cigarettes, alcohol, chocolate, soda, grain? Is that a real coupon? No meat, vegetables...... |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 11, 2020 21:45:22 GMT 1
Flour, sweets, sugar, cigarettes, alcohol, chocolate, soda, grain? Is that a real coupon? No meat, vegetables...... Not soda but laundry detergent called powder. Yes, it is real except for that bar code from capitalist times. Meat was on a seperate coupon. Veg and fruit were never rationed. There was a temporary shortage of some veg as potatoes in the worst months around martial law but generally veg and fruit were easily available due to private farm and orchard sector. |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 12, 2020 11:15:24 GMT 1
Not soda but laundry detergent called powder. Oops! I automatically thought of bicarb! generally veg and fruit were easily available due to private farm and orchard sector. That's one good thing then! |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 12, 2020 16:41:32 GMT 1
Oops! I automatically thought of bicarb! Baking soda? I think it was freely available. So, the products which were never rationed was spirit vinegar, mustard and baking soda. |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 15, 2020 19:51:22 GMT 1
the products which were never rationed was spirit vinegar, mustard and baking soda. Not very inspiring though. To be honest there are lots of things vinegar is useful for, but none of them involve consuming it. |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 18, 2020 23:17:24 GMT 1
Not very inspiring though. To be honest there are lots of things vinegar is useful for, but none of them involve consuming it. Mustard and vinegar   Reconstruction  |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 19, 2020 16:49:11 GMT 1
Look at all the jars of it! Ocet galore! I have just realized something. I always thought that ocet was exactly the same as white ( distilled ) vinegar in the UK, but I got suspicious when my friend asked how many % was English white vinegar. I can see the words spiritusowy on the bottles. Your vinegar contains spirtus? alcohol? Weird. Ours doesn't. Why alcohol in vinegar? Going back to chocolate! Yesterday I tried some nice chocolate biscuits flavoured with advocaat. I couldn't believe it when I saw the packet, but yes, they were by Goplana!! And I didn't buy them , a friend did! I should be a sales rep for Goplana company...... these were the ones:  |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 20, 2020 22:14:12 GMT 1
Ocet galore! I have just realized something. I always thought that ocet was exactly the same as white ( distilled ) vinegar in the UK, but I got suspicious when my friend asked how many % was English white vinegar. I can see the words spiritusowy on the bottles. Your vinegar contains spirtus? alcohol? Weird. Ours doesn't. Why alcohol in vinegar? Yesterday I tried some nice chocolate biscuits flavoured with advocaat. I couldn't believe it when I saw the packet, but yes, they were by Goplana!! And I didn't buy them , a friend did! I should be a sales rep for Goplana company...... these were the ones: Spirits vinegar doesn`t contain alcohol. If it did, all cheap wine lovers/dipsos would gulp it in litres. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar#Spirits
The term "distilled vinegar" as used in the United States (called "spirit vinegar" in the UK, "white vinegar" in Canada[34]) is something of a misnomer because it is not produced by distillation but by fermentation of distilled alcohol. The fermentate is diluted to produce a colorless solution of 5% to 8% acetic acid in water, with a pH of about 2.6. This is variously known as distilled spirit, "virgin" vinegar,[35] or white vinegar, and is used in cooking, baking, meat preservation, and pickling, as well as for medicinal, laboratory, and cleaning purposes.[32] The most common starting material in some regions, because of its low cost, is barley malt,[36] or in the United States, corn. It is sometimes derived from petroleum.[37] Distilled vinegar is used predominantly for cooking, although in the UK it is used as an alternative to brown or light malt vinegar. White distilled vinegar can also be used for cleaning, and some types are sold specifically for this purpose.
Oh, yes, I also love those Hedgehoglings, they are so deliciously crunchy. I am sorry, now a tragic showdown. Goplana is no longer an independent producer, it belongs to the Collian holding, once Jutrzenka. You can see both names on the packet. They use Goplana for pure sentiment. pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutrzenka_(przedsi%C4%99biorstwo)BTW, have you looked up what Goplana means? Jutrzenka is Aurora. |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 23, 2020 0:27:17 GMT 1
Spirits vinegar doesn`t contain alcohol. If it did, all cheap wine lovers/dipsos would gulp it in litres. It tends to be what one thinks of when percentage is mentioned. fermentate is diluted to produce a colorless solution of 5% to 8% acetic acid in water, with a pH of about 2.6. Aha, now I understand. Goplana is no longer an independent producer, it belongs to the Collian holding, It's gone the way of many companies today. Sad. What does it mean, I have no idea. I resorted to Google Translate but nothing..... |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 24, 2020 12:06:22 GMT 1
What does it mean, I have no idea. I resorted to Google Translate but nothing..... Goplana is a nymph who rules the lake of Gopło in one of Polish plays. Also, Goplans were an ancient tribe in the area of today`s Poland. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goplans |
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Post by naukowiec on Jan 25, 2020 10:26:08 GMT 1
Goplana is a nymph who rules the lake of Gopło in one of Polish plays. Also, Goplans were an ancient tribe in the area of today`s Poland. I wonder which one the company named their chocolate for...... |
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 25, 2020 22:26:57 GMT 1
I wonder which one the company named their chocolate for...... Of course, the nymph - Goplana is a feminine word. |
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 3, 2020 22:48:51 GMT 1
You provided that link which led me to another one: about cult sweets originating in communist times. culture.pl/pl/artykul/poznaj-kultowe-polskie-slodyczeI chose cream fudge from the article - I still love them. Especially fresh ones which haven`t crystalised yet - they should be crunchy outside and runny inside. Do you know their Polish names? Cowlings.     Communist packet  |
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Post by naukowiec on Feb 4, 2020 13:13:32 GMT 1
Do you know their Polish names? Cowlings I imagine baby cows I like Krówka too, we call it fudge over here and it comes in many many different flavours. I also like delicje which featured in your link. Over here they're called jaffa cakes:  The traditional ones are always orange flavour, but now we have lemon and lime. There was a great advert for them from the 90s: Personally, I prefer the Polish ones. |
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