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Brexit
Jan 31, 2020 18:28:01 GMT 1
Post by Bonobo on Jan 31, 2020 18:28:01 GMT 1
Brits are leaving the EU. I didn`t comment on it neither here nor on other sites coz I believe in British wisdom and suppose they know what they are doing. After all, they once ruled half the world so they know how to run successful politics or economy. We`ll see if they will like their new status quo.
Pity, though, because it is going to weaken the EU. Facing Putin and Russia`s rising aggression, the EU should stay consolidated, not seperated. That is what the Kremlin has always been dreaming of - dealing with isolated countries instead of united West.
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Brexit
Feb 3, 2020 12:04:30 GMT 1
Post by naukowiec on Feb 3, 2020 12:04:30 GMT 1
I believe in British wisdom and suppose they know what they are doing. You have more faith than me then. I have only to look at the broken healthcare, education, transport, social care systems etc to realise that those in charge couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. I honestly believe that the Brexit decision will be a disaster. India wants more Indians to come to the UK as part of any trade deal, and I doubt we will be told what the US wants in return for an 'awesome' deal. Whatever it will be it won't be beneficial for us, I'm sure. Even more laughable is that Boris thinks that everything will be done and dusted by the end of the year. We could still leave with no deal. I wouldn't trust that lying piece of crap as far as I could throw him. The biggest laugh for me will be when Brexiteers work out that immigration will carry on just as it did before. I don't care what anybody says, Brexit was about immigration, not EU rules.
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Brexit
Feb 3, 2020 19:50:16 GMT 1
Post by Bonobo on Feb 3, 2020 19:50:16 GMT 1
I honestly believe that the Brexit decision will be a disaster. We could still leave with no deal. I wouldn't trust that lying piece of crap as far as I could throw him. I don't care what anybody says, Brexit was about immigration, not EU rules. I read a lot of similar comments, both by ordinary guys as well as experts. One even claims the UK will rejoin the EU in 10 years` time. www.politico.eu/article/how-britain-rejoins-the-eu-in-a-decades-time/It is very probable. The rumour says the EU will is going to punish the UK in a spectacular way to prevent other countries from following British example. The seperation must be painful for the UK. Yet, his party got the majority of votes, even in traditionally Labour areas. It means most Brits trust Boris. Can you say they are all wrong? Mostly about Polish immigration, let`s be honest. 1 million Poles within a few years would upset even a saint.
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Brexit
Feb 4, 2020 12:48:30 GMT 1
Post by naukowiec on Feb 4, 2020 12:48:30 GMT 1
One even claims the UK will rejoin the EU in 10 years` time. It is a nice thought but in order for that to happen we need an alternative political party with a credible leader, or the Conservatives will stay in. That is more worrying for me, because without opposition there is no chance. The Conservatives have run the country into the ground and people appear to be so apathetic, they don't care. The NHS is falling apart, crime is at an all time high as austerity measures have removed thousands of police from the streets, prison service is failing, as is social care etc etc. The rumour says the EU will is going to punish the UK in a spectacular way to prevent other countries from following British example. That's been obvious from the start, they don't want other countries following suit. The problem is that those at the top are still living in the past. ' Great 'Britain hasn't been great for a long time. Many of the industries we had are long gone. If other countries take their business elsewhere and London is no longer the financial capital of the world, we're toast. It means most Brits trust Boris. Can you say they are all wrong? In my opinion it doesn't mean that at all. It means they trusted Corbyn less, in the same way Trump beat Hillary. Best of a bad job. Corbyn's policiesx weren't clear and he neglected his supporters in die-hard labour areas.Of course, I'm not saying that Boris doesn't have his supporters, he does, but I think it had got to the stage where people felt they wanted Brexit done and dusted and Corbyn was offering more delay and indecision. Personally, I'd love to know where all the Boris supporters are because I don't know a single person that voted for him, and I discussed Brexit with many, many people. Oh well, it's done now. 1 million Poles within a few years would upset even a saint. Yeah, I get that, but immigration from outside Europe to the UK has always been far higher than within. The government kept that part quiet. They could also have introduced a points system like Australia years ago, but didn't. One can only presume they wanted people to come and work here. My personal feelings about immigration is that we should have people here who are going to benefit the country, and if the government wants people here in their millions, they should be prepared to do something about making sure there are adequate services in place. There are not enough schools, hospitals, doctors etc.
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Brexit
Feb 4, 2020 20:26:45 GMT 1
Post by Bonobo on Feb 4, 2020 20:26:45 GMT 1
people appear to be so apathetic, they don't care. In my opinion it doesn't mean that at all. It means they trusted Corbyn less, in the same way Trump beat Hillary. Best of a bad job. it had got to the stage where people felt they wanted Brexit done and dusted and Corbyn was offering more delay and indecision. Personally, I'd love to know where all the Boris supporters are because I don't know a single person that voted for him, and I discussed Brexit with many, many people. Oh well, it's done now. One can only presume they wanted people to come and work here. My personal feelings about immigration is that we should have people here who are going to benefit the country, and if the government wants people here in their millions, they should be prepared to do something about making sure there are adequate services in place. There are not enough schools, hospitals, doctors etc. Like in Poland. On average, 50% people don`t vote. Tragedy. Yes, I remember a discussion about Trump and Hilary here. Asked about his preferences, one member said those elections reminded him of fishing for a nicer turd in the bucket of cesspool water. Yes, they were so desperate they eventually cried to the hangman to quicken the execution. Again, similarly here. The people I have a closer contact with say they reject PiS.
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Brexit
Feb 5, 2020 13:55:50 GMT 1
Post by naukowiec on Feb 5, 2020 13:55:50 GMT 1
On average, 50% people don`t vote. Tragedy. Yep, same here. I think that many people believe that nothing will change regadless of who is in power. To be honest I agree with them. The rich keep getting richer and the people at the bottom are thrown a few scraps now and again. I always thought that once the middle classes were pissed off enough, things would change, but sadly not. The latest news and an omen of things to come........ www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/03/political-journalists-boycott-no-10-briefing-after-reporter-banVery PiS like I think........ those elections reminded him of fishing for a nicer turd in the bucket of cesspool water. That member knew what he was talking about haha! they were so desperate they eventually cried to the hangman to quicken the execution. Well I can laugh but all of the nurses who I saw over the weekend were agency staff. I talked to a couple of them and they said that without them, the NHS would cease to function. I had a Chinese nurse, a Polish nurse, an Indian nurse, a Caribbean nurse and a South African nurse. Only my surgeon was English!
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Feb 10, 2020 0:50:57 GMT 1
Post by Bonobo on Feb 10, 2020 0:50:57 GMT 1
The latest news and an omen of things to come........ Very PiS like I think........ I had a Chinese nurse, a Polish nurse, an Indian nurse, a Caribbean nurse and a South African nurse. Only my surgeon was English! Yes, I read it in Polish reports and thought similarly - it is beginning..... hahaha Probably the UK is more impervious to PiS-like politics but who known - anything is possible today.... Strange, nurses earn well in the UK, I suppose. Why don`t British girls want to become ones? Too much studying and later too many responsibilities?
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Brexit
Feb 12, 2020 22:33:08 GMT 1
Post by naukowiec on Feb 12, 2020 22:33:08 GMT 1
Why don`t British girls want to become ones? Too much studying and later too many responsibilities? No. It is the NHS falling apart. Nurses know that they will be working insane hours in hospitals with severe staff shortages. Same reasons we have fewer people wanting to train as doctors, not enough pay and crazy hours. Absolutely no work-life balance. The government never listens, no money is being invested in the NHS. It must be costing an absolute fortune because agency staff are paid more money. If working conditions are bad, no-one wants to train, or they will go abroad and work. Staff are difficult to retain.
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Brexit
Feb 12, 2020 22:35:31 GMT 1
Post by naukowiec on Feb 12, 2020 22:35:31 GMT 1
I read it in Polish reports and thought similarly - it is beginning. Unfortunately I can see the similarities too. It's quite frightening because people seem either oblivious to it, or they're not worried. Apathy is a terrible thing.
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Brexit
Feb 13, 2020 22:41:45 GMT 1
Post by Bonobo on Feb 13, 2020 22:41:45 GMT 1
I see. So, it is the same situation here. Additionally, medical studies are extremely demanding.
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