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Post by Bonobo on Dec 4, 2021 22:30:04 GMT 1
Those fekking PiS traitors should be ashamed of themselves for inviting European neo-fascist nationalists to Warsaw which was destroyed by German fascists during WW2 . However, they are known for having no shame at all. Jarosław Kaczyński has invited fellow national-conservative leaders – including Matteo Salvini and Viktor Orbán – for talks in Warsaw next month to discuss the future of the European Union, which they want to have a stronger emphasis on national sovereignty and “traditional values”. The summit will continue a process launched in July this year, when the leaders signed a declaration on “reforming Europe”. It also follows a meeting last month between Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki and French far-right leader Marine Le Pen.notesfrompoland.com/2021/11/12/kaczynski-invites-salvini-orban-and-other-right-wing-leaders-for-talks-on-eu-future/In the past PiS were aware those European nationalists are Kremlin stooges. Today, PIS want to befriend them. Amazing. PiS is trecherous "svoloche" which means scum in Russian.
PiS, however, had previously ruled out working with Le Pen, due to her close ties with the Kremlin. In 2019, Kaczyński warned that Le Pen’s National Rally (RN) party is “obviously linked to Moscow and receives its support”. He raised concern that RN’s “policies could be adjusted by the Kremlin if they became a strong force in the EU”.
In the same year, Morawiecki said that PiS – which, unlike many other groups on the European hard right, holds a strongly anti-Russian line – “rules out an alliance with any faction that had France’s National Rally as a member”.
Yet this year that stance has softened. Le Pen was among the signatories of July’s declaration. Last month, she met with Morawiecki in Brussels, after which she declared that the two “share many points in common”.
Asked about today’s announcement of a new summit between the right-wing leaders, Rafał Trzaskowski, deputy leader of Poland’s largest opposition party, accused PiS of seeking alliances with “all those who love to take money from Putin and cooperate with him”.Polish Prime Minister with nationalist French Le Pen Protest against Ruski Pact
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Post by Bonobo on Dec 5, 2021 10:28:36 GMT 1
Below is an article which proves that PiS are convinced they are making great politics but in fact they are like kids lost in the foggy forest who are severely harming Polish interests. They remind me of Targowica traitors who once led to the partitions of Poland in 18th century, with Russia being the main agent behind destroying Poland then. History repeats itself coz those past traitors also believed they were contributing to Poland`s prosperity. All patriotic Poles should do their best to contain PiS madness by removing them from power in the next elections. www.onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/sojusz-pis-i-v-kolumny-putina-w-europie-analiza/f7n0zhz,79cfc278 The PiS alliance and Putin's fifth column in Europe [ANALYSIS] The summit of the "center-right parties" held in Warsaw, organized by Law and Justice, caused a whole series of controversies. PiS invited extreme parties to Warsaw, but above all, openly pro-Russian.
Witold Jurasz 964 Today, 07:24
PiS politicians are right to point out that many European politicians are selling themselves to Russia, but are lying, saying that PiS opponents, not allies, are allies of the Kremlin Jarosław Kaczyński, in order to pretend to be a world-class politician, must meet with the Kremlin's third-rate political friends Poland's credibility as a state that tries to maintain the unity of the West in the face of Moscow's neo-imperial and revanchist policy, and at the same time builds alliances with Putin's allies, is zero The effectiveness of Poland, when among the invited - apart from Victor Orban - there is no one who is in power and thus has an influence on anything, is zero More such stories can be found on the main page of Onet.pl
The parties participating in the summit are not, as PiS claims, center-right parties, but right-wing or extreme-right parties. Interestingly, it is not really known which specific grouping is taking part in the meeting. Both the PiS website and the social media of the ruling party in Poland do not provide information about who exactly accepted the invitation and whether, for example, the absence of the former Italian deputy prime minister Matteo Salvini only means his absence or the absence of the Northern League led by him (only the absence of the Italian flag on the latter suggests the latter).
Putin's friends All of the above, however, fades in comparison with the controversy related to the presence of the leader of the French National Union (former National Front), Marine Le Pen, who is widely accused of clearly pro-Russian and pro-Putin sympathies. However, this accusation is rejected by Law and Justice politicians who claim that it is not the allies, but the political opponents of PiS on the European political scene that are pro-Russian .
"State after the Storm". Kaczyński goes to war with the European Reich, Mejza conquers America, and Trzaskowski blackmails Tusk One of the organizers of the summit, PiS MEP Tomasz Poręba said: "Colleagues of Mr. Tusk, Miller, Cimoszewicz and Sikorski from political groups cooperating with the Civic Platform in the European Parliament found employment in companies cooperating with Gazprom, companies directly related to Putin."
Poręba mentioned in this context the former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and Wolfgang Schussel, former French and French Prime Minister Francois Fillon and Finland Paavo Lipponen, and finally former Austrian Foreign Minister Karin Kneissl. Marine Le Pen was also defended by PiS spokesman Radosław Fogiel. Another PiS politician, Ryszard Legutko, went further and stated that "the most pro-Russian, pro-Putinist party in Europe is the one that has just won the elections in Germany and will have its chancellor." The problem with the statements of PiS politicians is that they are based on half-truths, and the conclusions drawn from these half-truths by PiS politicians claiming that their allies are not pro-Russian politicians are simply a lie.
"State after the Storm". Kaczyński goes to war with the European Reich, Mejza conquers America, and Trzaskowski blackmails Tusk In fact, the European leaders named by PiS MEP Tomasz Poręba are working for Russian energy companies. This fact is undoubtedly scandalous and embarrassing not only personally for the above-mentioned politicians, but also for the states in which they held the highest positions, and in some cases perhaps also for their counterintelligence.
In the case of Gerhard Schroeder, the issue that should raise fundamental questions is not only the fact of his work for the Russians and his familiarity with Vladimir Putin, but also the fact that Schroeder, who lobbied as chancellor for the creation of Nord Stream, closely cooperates with the company managing this gas pipeline. with Matthias Warnig, who from 1974 was an employee of the East German security service Stasi. Warnig met Putin most likely in the 1980s, when the current president of Russia worked in the KGB office in Dresden. However, Putin's lack of acquaintance with Warnig is the most interesting. The question that almost nobody asks publicly is when and under what circumstances Schroeder met Warnig.
What PiS does not notice The issue of Nord Stream is important as it is the only example where it can be shown that Russia, by recruiting retired European politicians (if not, of course, of course) for cooperation, gains tangible benefits. Even Nord Stream does not change the fact that the European (and in some dimensions mainly German) policy towards Russia, apart from elements of cooperation, also includes political and, above all, economic sanctions imposed on Moscow after Russia invaded Ukraine.
The European policy towards Russia also means the constant refusal to recognize the annexation of Crimea, while at the same time considering Russia as an aggressor that threatens the NATO and European Union member states located in the immediate vicinity of Russia. The result of the above is the military presence not only of the United States (although this is the most talked about), but also of Germany, France, Great Britain and others in the countries of NATO's eastern flank. Acquiring, and in the case of some politicians, even recruiting retired European politicians is certainly a success for Russia and Vladimir Putin personally, but at the same time it is not something that has managed to fundamentally change European policy towards Russia.
Putin's even better friends. And PiS PiS politicians, claiming that their ideological opponents in Europe are pro-Russian, seem to completely ignore the above fact and, at the same time, fail to notice that their allies - including, in particular, Marine Le Pen - were against the sanctions imposed on Russia, which according to the leader of the National Union they were "completely unjustified". Le Pen was also understanding about Russia's attack on Ukraine itself.
The leader of the Northern League, allied with PiS, Matteo Salvini, who called the Russian attack on Ukraine "an alleged violation of Ukraine's interests", went even further. Le Pen, in turn, described the so-called referendum in Crimea (during which the inhabitants of Crimea, of course, opted for joining Russia) held under the barrels of Russian rifles as credible.
Above all, however, Marine Le Pen has consistently argued that Russia is not a threat. In an interview for Rzeczpospolita, she even said: "Not only am I not afraid of Vladimir Putin, but it would be in our strategic interest to strengthen the ties between Europe and Russia."
Brown Europe meets in Warsaw, dreaming of a different Union, but which one? No less important than the political declarations is the fact that the Kremlin has tangible financial support for both Le Pen and Salvini. For example, in 2014, the Marine Le Pen party borrowed EUR 11 million from Russian banks. In the case of Salvini, the scandal broke out in 2014, when a recording was published on the Internet in which one of his closest associates during a meeting in Moscow talked about a project the essence of which was the purchase by companies associated with the Salvini party of three million tons of diesel fuel at a reduced price as a result, it would be possible to sell them at a significant profit, and thus to finance the League's election campaign.
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who is also present in Warsaw, is known for his specific (friendly) attitude towards Vladimir Putin. Orban has repeatedly made it clear that he wants to normalize relations with Russia, and referring to the sanctions, he spoke of the hypocrisy of the West (but not of the hypocrisy of Russia, which declares its will to reach an agreement with the West and at the same time conducts an invariably aggressive policy towards the West).
The Belgian party Vlaams Belang, present at the Warsaw summit, which a few years ago during a conference in St. Petersburg in Russia, signed a declaration calling for lifting the sanctions imposed on Russia, and calling NATO a "tool of dictatorship" (US ).
The assurances of PiS politicians that their ideological opponents in the European Parliament are linked to the Kremlin are just half-true. For even admitting that certain actions, for example, by Germany in the Nord Stream issue, are in the hands of Russia, and some retired European politicians have de facto sold themselves to the Russians, the PiS allies are still, if not directly agents, then certainly "useful idiots" of Vladimir Putin.
Just a few years ago, this was understood by Jarosław Kaczyński, who in 2017 stated that PiS had "as much in common with Marine Le Pen as with Mr. Putin". The thing is that in 2017 Jarosław Kaczyński was a politician with whom important European politicians were still talking. Currently, no one wants to have anything to do with the PiS leader, and in order to pretend to be a politician of the world format, Jarosław Kaczyński has to meet with the Kremlin's third-rate political friends.
Balance of losses Moreover, the statement adopted at the summit is symptomatic. There is no mention of international security, the situation on the Polish-Belarusian border, or a mention of a 100,000-strong Russian army on the Ukrainian border.
Half of the statement is actually devoted to fighting political correctness, which - while sometimes caricatured - is a matter of secondary importance compared to national security.
The second part of the joint statement, in turn, deals with the issue of sovereignty of states in the EU. At this point, PiS's intuitions that federalisation bills go too far are probably right . The problem is that these projects cannot be blocked by creating exotic and inherently fragile alliances with secondary parties and Putin's agents.
The durability of the PiS alliances is best evidenced by the absence of Matteo Salvini in Warsaw, who in July last year signed a joint declaration with, among others, Jarosław Kaczyński, Victor Orban and Marine Le Pen, and now has not found time to come to Warsaw at all.
However, there is also an aspect that is important from the point of view of state security. The situation in which PiS, in the face of the growing threat from Russia, chooses an alliance with extreme parties that are openly pro-Russian, is not only evidence of the ideological poisoning of Law and Justice. Poland's credibility as a state that tries to maintain the unity of the West in the face of Moscow's neo-imperial and revanchist policy, and at the same time builds alliances with Putin's allies, is zero. Effectiveness, when among the invited guests - apart from Victor Orban - there is no one in power and thus has an influence on anything, is zero.
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Witold Jurasz president of the Center for Strategic Analysis www.oaspl.org,
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