The cruelty and bestiality of War

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WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINTED HEARTS _ GRAPHIC IMAGES

Folks,


This is one of the most disturbing war movies I saw. Due to this movie I could imagine the brutality of the SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger (1944) under the command of the vicious SS-Oberführer Oskar Dirlewanger and the Waffen-Sturm-Brigade der SS RONA under the command of the equally brutal Waffen-Brigadeführer der SS Bronislav Kaminski


Oskar Paul Dirlewanger (26 September 1895 – c. 7 June 1945) was a German military officer (SS-Oberführer) and war criminal who served as the founder and commander of the Nazi SS penal unit "Dirlewanger" during World War II. Serving in Poland and in Belarus, his name is closely linked to some of the most notorious crimes of the war. He also fought in World War I, the post-World War I conflicts, and the Spanish Civil War. He reportedly died after World War II while in Allied custody. According to Timothy Snyder, "in all the theaters of the Second World War, few could compete in cruelty with Dirlewanger"

Oskar Anton Paul Dirlewanger (ur. 26 września 1895 w Würzburgu, zm. 7 czerwca 1945 w Altshausen) – niemiecki zbrodniarz wojenny, SS-Oberführer i znany z sadyzmu dowódca specjalnej jednostki karnej SS do zwalczania partyzantów, odpowiedzialny za liczne zbrodnie wojenne popełnione w okupowanej Polsce, Białorusi i Słowacji. Ocenia się, że w wyniku akcji dowodzonych przez niego oddziałów (w tym 36 Dywizji Grenadierów SS „Dirlewanger”) śmierć poniosło między 60 a 120 tysięcy ludzi, w większości cywili; dużą część ofiar niemieccy i wschodnioeuropejscy podwładni Dirlewangera spalili żywcem.

Link: pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Dirlewanger

I have seen this movie in the cinema, one of the many war movies I have seen and one of the best and most crual ones. But very brutal, realistic and thourough. It shows the reality of Wola Massacre kind of War crimes of Dirlewanger Brigade and Kaminski Brigade like brutalities during the Wola Massacre in Warsaw in 1944, but this takes place in Belarus. If you want to imagine the war crimes Russians are commiting in Ukrainian cities today with looting, street executions, rapes and gang rapes, torturing people and murdering them, this 1985 Soviet anti-war film directed by Elem Klimov and starring Aleksei Kravchenko and Olga Mironova, comes close.



Cheers,
Pieter

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Bonobo and Jeanne,

Actually in my opinion the German and Austrian nazi's plan was a Germanic expansion war with a large anti-semitic, anti-Jewish, anti-Democratic, anti-liberal, anti-decent moderate conservative, anti-christian, and heathen, occult, secular, atheist racist nationalist, Germano Cult motivation.

The emphasis is on the Holocaust (Shoa) and war destruction in Europe and Asia. Often is forgotten the large amounts of Slav people that were murdered in that war, but also Slavic henchmen with no doubt some Slavic self hatred or serf (slave mentality) mentality who killed fellow Slavs. The Ukrainian, Russian, Belarussian, Slovak (The Clerical fascist one-party republic, the Slovak Republic (1939–1945) of president Jozef Tiso and prime minister Vojtech Tuka), Croat (Ustaše) and Serb (Chetniks) Nazi collaborators, who often killed compatriots. Fascist Serbs killing anti-fascist Serbs. The Chetniks, Serbian Volunteer Corps (World War II), and the Serbian State Guard (Serbian: Srpska državna straža, SDS) which for a long period was controlled by the Higher SS and Police Leader in the occupied territory, were Serbs who turned against fellow Serbs and Yugoslav Jews and Sinti and Roma (Gypsies). The extremely crual and sadistic Croat Ustaše did the same in Croatia, where they had their own concentration camps for Serbs, Jews, Gypsies and dissident Croats. The Ustaše were very crual torturers, murderers and beasts like Oskar Dirlewangers men during the Warsaw uprising. Unimaginable sadism, cruelty and viciousness against Serb, jewish and Gypsy childeren, women and men.

Historian Jonathan Steinberg describes Ustaše crimes against Serbian and Jewish civilians: "Serbian and Jewish men, women and children were literally hacked to death". Reflecting on the photos of Ustaše crimes taken by Italians, Steinberg writes: "There are photographs of Serbian women with breasts hacked off by pocket knives, men with eyes gouged out, emasculated and mutilated".

An extremely crual Croatian Roman Catholic cleric, Miroslav Filipović (5 June 1915 – 1946), also known as Tomislav Filipović and Tomislav Filipović-Majstorović, was a Bosnian Croat Franciscan friar and Ustashe military chaplain who participated in atrocities during World War II in Yugoslavia.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Filipovi%C4%87

Of course you had more evil Miroslav Filipović kind of people in more countries than only Croatia. Ukrainians massacred Poles and burned down Polish churches and in reprisal Poles attacked Ukrainian villages, killed the Ulkrainian population and burned down their churches in 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth' like approach. What takes place in Ukraine is hard to follow for outsiders, due to the chaos, anarchy, extreme danger, lack of law and order, destruction and lack of supplies, electricity, food and water in large parts of the country. Like all wars this war has created human waste lands, landscapes with ruins and scorched-soil. We all have seen the images of Mariupol, Bucha, Irpin, Kharkiv, Chernihiv and many other Ukrainian cities, towns, villages and hamlets.

Huge amounts of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians, Poles, Czechs and Serbs were murdered during the Second World War because they were Slavic people in a war that was an ethnic extermination war. Next to Jews and Gypsies Slavs were deliberately murdered. Not in an organised and bureaucratic and industrial way like the Jews, but as a part of the War in Central- and Eastern-Europe with anti-Intelligentsia murder campaigns, mass arrests during street razzia's (Łapanka's) after which Polish people were sent to Forced Labour and Nazi Concentration and extermination camps. Many died in such camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, Bergen Belsen, Mauthausen, Treblinka, Sobibor, Maydanek, Sachsenhausen, Neuengamma Dauchau and Buchenwald. The German and Austrian Nazi's had a camp system with about 20 thousand camps all over Europe. The larger are known and famous, but there were many more small and middle big concentrationcamps all over Nazi occupied Europe.

Today again Slavic people are attacked, bombed, ethnic cleansed, looted, raped, murdered and humiliated by other Slavs who act like Stalinist and Nazi's in the period 1939-1945. We can't see the Ukrainian side, but in every war all sides commit war crimes. So no doubt elements of the Ukrainian army, the National Guard, the Azov batallion and Donbas Batallion will have commited some war crimes. War is war, and war crimes go with war, because the brutality of the war field creates trauma, PTSD, psychotic behavior and deviant behavior and in some cases lawlessness.

The present day Russian Federation uses Second World War Stalinist Soviet, Nazi, and later Afghanistan, Chechen wars, Georgia war and Donbas war (2014-2022) techniques and methods during their present day attempt to a Blitzkrieg in the Ukrainian East-, North- and South. And even the West, the rocket attacks on Western Ukrainian cities and bases.

Pieter

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Come and See

Come and See (Russian: Иди и смотри, Idi i smotri; Belarusian: Ідзі і глядзі, Idzi i hliadzi) is a 1985 Soviet anti-war film directed by Elem Klimov and starring Aleksei Kravchenko and Olga Mironova. Its screenplay, written by Klimov and Ales Adamovich, is based on the 1978 book I Am from the Fiery Village (original title: Я из огненной деревни, Ya iz ognennoj derevni, 1977), of which Adamovich was a co-author. Klimov had to fight eight years of censorship from the Soviet authorities before he could be allowed to produce the film in its entirety.

The film's plot focuses on the Nazi German occupation of Belarus, and the events as witnessed by a young Belarusian partisan teenager named Flyora, who—against his mother's wishes—joins the Belarusian resistance movement, and thereafter depicts the Nazi atrocities and human suffering inflicted upon the Eastern European villages' populace. The film mixes hyper-realism with an underlying surrealism, and philosophical existentialism with poetical, psychological, political and apocalyptic themes.

Come and See received generally positive critical reception upon release, and received the FIPRESCI prize at the 14th Moscow International Film Festival. It has since come to be considered one of the greatest films of all time.

In 1943, two Belarusian boys dig in a sand-filled trench looking for abandoned rifles in order to join the Soviet partisan forces. Their village elder warns them not to dig up the weapons as it would arouse the suspicions of the occupying Germans. One of the boys, Flyora, finds an SVT-40 rifle, though both of them are seen by an Fw 189 flying overhead.

The next day two partisans arrive at Flyora's house, to conscript him. Flyora becomes a low-rank militiaman and is ordered to perform menial tasks. When the partisans are ready to move on, the partisan commander, Kosach, says that Flyora is to remain behind at the camp. Bitterly disappointed, Flyora walks into the forest weeping and meets Glasha, a young girl working as a nurse in the camp, and the two bond before the camp is suddenly attacked by German paratroopers and dive bombers.

Flyora is partially deafened from the explosions before the two hide in the forest to avoid the German soldiers. Flyora and Glasha travel to his village, only to find his home deserted and covered in flies. Denying that his family is dead, Flyora believes that they are hiding on a nearby island across a bog. As they run from the village in the direction of the bogland, Glasha glances across her shoulder, seeing a pile of executed villagers' bodies stacked behind a house, but does not alert Flyora.

The two become hysterical after wading through the bog, where Glasha then screams at Flyora that his family is actually dead in the village; resulting in the latter attempting to drown her. They are soon met by Rubezh, a partisan fighter, who takes them to a large group of villagers who have fled the Germans. Flyora sees the village elder, badly burnt by the Germans, who tells him that he witnessed his family's execution and that he should not have dug up the rifles. Flyora, hearing this, then attempts suicide out of guilt, but Glasha and the villagers save and comfort him.

Rubezh takes Flyora and two other men to find food at a nearby warehouse, only to find it being guarded by German troops. During their retreat, the group unknowingly wanders through a minefield resulting in the deaths of the two companions. That evening Rubezh and Flyora sneak up to an occupied village and manage to steal a cow from a collaborating farmer. As they escape across an open field, Rubezh and the cow are shot and killed by a German machine gun. The next morning, Flyora attempts to steal a horse and cart but the owner catches him and instead of doing him harm, he helps hide Flyora's identity when SS troops approach.

Flyora is taken to the village of Perekhody, where they hurriedly discuss a fake identity for him, while the SS unit, accompanied by collaborators from the Russian Liberation Army and Schutzmannschaft Batallion 118, surround and occupy the village. Flyora tries to warn the townsfolk as they are being herded to their deaths, but is forced to join them inside a wooden church. Flyora and a young girl are allowed to escape the church, but the latter is dragged by her hair across the ground and into a truck to be gang raped. Flyora is forced to watch as several Molotov cocktails and grenades are thrown onto and within the church before it is further set ablaze with a flamethrower as other soldiers shoot into the building. A German officer points a gun to Flyora's head to pose for a picture before leaving him to slump to the ground as the soldiers leave.

Flyora later wanders out of the scorched village in the direction of the Germans, where he discovers they had been ambushed by the partisans. After recovering his jacket and rifle, Flyora comes across the young girl in a fugue state, her legs and face covered in blood after having been gang-raped and brutalized by the soldiers. Flyora returns to the village and finds that his fellow partisans have captured eleven of the Germans and their collaborators, including the commander, an SS-Sturmbannführer. While some of the captured men including the commander and main collaborator plead for their lives and deflect blame, a young fanatical officer, an Obersturmführer, is unapologetic and vows they will carry out their genocidal mission.

Kosach makes the collaborator douse the Germans with a can of petrol brought there by Flyora, but the disgusted crowd shoots them all before they can be set on fire. As the partisans leave, Flyora notices a framed portrait of Adolf Hitler in a puddle and proceeds to shoot it numerous times. As he does so, a montage of clips from Hitler's life play in reverse, but when Hitler is shown as a baby on his mother's lap, Flyora stops shooting and cries. A title card informs: "628 Belorussian villages were destroyed, along with all their inhabitants." Flyora rushes to rejoin his comrades, and they march through the birch woods as snow blankets the ground.