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Post by Bonobo on Oct 22, 2008 20:19:24 GMT 1
Tell every voter you know living in the U.S.A., to vote and work for the best man, John McCain. And thanks for asking. Mike Poles who are temporarily or permanently staying abroad have the privilege of voting in all Polish elections. You just need to have a Polish citizenship proven by a passport or another id and you are allowed to vote in countries with Polish embassy or consulate. Is it also a rule for Americans staying in Poland? |
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 22, 2008 20:25:35 GMT 1
Is it also a rule for Americans staying in Poland? yes, it's called absentee ballot or vote. |
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Post by valpomike on Oct 22, 2008 20:58:37 GMT 1
Tell them also, everyone, we need to beat the devil.
Mike
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Post by grammyk on Oct 23, 2008 1:58:43 GMT 1
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 23, 2008 3:18:25 GMT 1
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Post by grammyk on Oct 23, 2008 3:24:22 GMT 1
You believe Olberman??? You've got to be kidding!
Intertaining? Yes
Factual? No
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 23, 2008 3:46:04 GMT 1
You believe Olberman??? You've got to be kidding! Intertaining? Yes Factual? No i think her own words are factual enough. did you hear her answers? none actually describing the job of a vp. and she's ready to possibly step up to the big desk? you have got to be kidding yourself. |
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Post by grammyk on Oct 23, 2008 3:52:13 GMT 1
Oh Loco, I gotta love ya, but you think Obama is more qualified for President than Palin is for Vice President.
I respectfully disagree................
But that is the right we have as citizens of the US!
Thank you Founding Fathers.......................
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 23, 2008 4:12:48 GMT 1
believe you me, i have issues with Obama but Mac gives me the bigger creeps at this point. I think picking Palin is a big mistake; many people around the country seem to think so too. she actually has a negative approval/disapproval rating right now. she's shady and she's giving dubya abig run for his money in the dolt category.  that's just not vp material. |
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Post by grammyk on Oct 23, 2008 4:17:57 GMT 1
Loco, You say Palin is shady, I say Obama is..............
I guess it depends on where our information is coming from.
Be honest now.....
Are you sexist?
I'm not racist. (in spite of what that idiot Murtha says)
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 23, 2008 5:40:24 GMT 1
Loco, You say Palin is shady, I say Obama is.............. I guess it depends on where our information is coming from. Be honest now..... Are you sexist? I'm not racist. (in spite of what that idiot Murtha says) sexist? lol.. furthest from the truth.. what do you have against Murtha? where is your information coming from? i tend to check AP to start with but then i read everything and anything that has some integrity. infotament i'm not into though. obama has been steadfast throughout this process while mac has been all over the place and mainly not concentrating on the issues. lately he has but i hope it's too little too late. we'll see. if that doesn't reflect on solidity of the candidates' leadership abilities then i don't know what does. in this case it has been hands down Obama showing that he's organized, has a pretty solid plan and some kind of ideal. mac has failed and seems like a pissed off old man. we don't need that in the white house. we need someone who is cool, calm and collected. <<- definitely Obama |
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Post by valpomike on Oct 23, 2008 16:05:10 GMT 1
Loco will never change for his DEMO ways, if they put up the devil, Loco would be out working for him. I think they have put up the devil now, and we can't let him get in.
VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 23, 2008 19:16:11 GMT 1
I don't buy the bs that mac/lipstick are selling. it's not what this country needs right now or ever. time to swing away from crazy. hope the whole congress falls under demo majority and the demos have a chance to reverse some of the stupid that has been going on in DC for the last 8y. vote OBAMA!!! |
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 23, 2008 20:48:56 GMT 1
Yes! Where is Batman when you really need him?? ;D Currently he is very busy  |
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 23, 2008 20:54:42 GMT 1
I am undecided, not uninformed. My frustration lies with the fact that neither major candidate - or their vp candidate - impresses me (my head tells me this), and regardless of which is chosen, not much will change for the good (my heart tells me this). vote OBAMA!!! I am really happy that in case of American elections the forum members display such a wide spectrum of political opinions. Democracy rulez! I wish there was such an abundance of different opinions about Polish politics here. So far the balance is heavily on one side. I hope that after your elections, no matter who wins, you will remain friends like you are now. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by valpomike on Oct 23, 2008 22:44:54 GMT 1
The stupid things have been only going on for the past few years, when the Demos took over congress. They made this mess, and did nothing good for anyone, but them selfs. Next we need replace them all, and get good Repo's in there also, with John McCain, and we can get things back on track.
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 24, 2008 15:16:23 GMT 1
The stupid things have been only going on for the past few years, when the Demos took over congress. They made this mess, and did nothing good for anyone, but them selfs. Next we need replace them all, and get good Repo's in there also, with John McCain, and we can get things back on track. Mike you're obviously just as out of touch as the geriatric. granted pelosi sucks big time, the issues we face today are of shrubco's doing. relief is just around the corner. the repubs are going to get tossed on their butts in just about a week. |
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 24, 2008 15:17:22 GMT 1
vote OBAMA!!! I am really happy that in case of American elections the forum members display such a wide spectrum of political opinions. Democracy rulez! I wish there was such an abundance of different opinions about Polish politics here. So far the balance is heavily on one side. I hope that after your elections, no matter who wins, you will remain friends like you are now. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D definitely.  |
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Post by valpomike on Oct 24, 2008 17:13:40 GMT 1
Loco,
I feel sorry for you that you can't think for yourself, just what the Demo's tell you. You could be a smart man, but not when it comes to who to vote for, if you could.
You never state facts, just what you think.
I just hope that when you see you are wrong, you can live with it.
If the black devil does get in, it will be the end to life as we like it, unless you are black, and I am not. Are you?
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Oct 24, 2008 17:15:16 GMT 1
McCain could have, we don't know, have some Polish blood in him, but we do know for sure, Obama does not, and thank GOD for that.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Oct 24, 2008 17:58:53 GMT 1
Most Polish by birth are Demo, only those who think for them self have crossed over to the good side.
Here in Indiana, Mitch is one of the best we ever had, and he will return.
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 24, 2008 18:21:26 GMT 1
Loco, I feel sorry for you that you can't think for yourself, just what the Demo's tell you. You could be a smart man, but not when it comes to who to vote for, if you could. You never state facts, just what you think. I just hope that when you see you are wrong, you can live with it. If the black devil does get in, it will be the end to life as we like it, unless you are black, and I am not. Are you? Mike demos don't tell me anything but you obviously are feeding at the elephant through. think 4 yourself like you keep telling me. THINK.. don't let those righty idiots feed you all this crap. you're going to make the wrong decision. as to mitch the b!tch, same thing.. this idiot is not good for indiana. i support horning instead. |
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 24, 2008 18:22:43 GMT 1
McCain could have, we don't know, have some Polish blood in him, but we do know for sure, Obama does not, and thank GOD for that. Mike he doesn't. his blood is all anglo-saxon. |
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Post by valpomike on Oct 24, 2008 18:51:56 GMT 1
Blacks are less than 20 per cent of the U.S.A. so why do they have it due them?
Remember ACORN.
Jill Long Thompson, lived in my area, and I got to know her, when she did live near by, and that is why I am going to vote for Mitch, the best person for the job.
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 24, 2008 19:34:33 GMT 1
jill long is not from your area unless valpo is NE indiana now. wtf?
mitch has always been out of touch and so i can never, ever support another dolt like his master, shrub.
and please stop with the one liners eh? what do you really know about acorn? may want to look into it.. you'll be surprised what you may actually LEARN.
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Post by valpomike on Oct 25, 2008 16:13:20 GMT 1
She lived in Valparaiso, and was a teacher here at V.U. and I am sure, since I know her. She later moved to another part of the state.
ACORN, is under investigations by the government for voter fraud, and all only for Obama, none for McCain.
Mitch is the best we have had for some time, and will again rule, after election day.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Oct 25, 2008 16:35:32 GMT 1
Loco,
Check the records and see if she did not live in Valparaiso, Indiana and teach at V.U. and let me know that I am, again, correct, please. I am sure since I know her, for some time. She held office in our area, I don't remember which one.
Mike
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 25, 2008 18:39:40 GMT 1
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Post by Bonobo on Oct 25, 2008 21:38:35 GMT 1
62% of Poles would elect Obama
thenews.pl
20.10.2008
Sixty-two percent of Poles would vote for U.S. Democratic
Presidential Candidate Barack Obama, if the election were to be open to the entire world, reports Gazeta Wyborcza. The poll, sponsored by the largest francophone paper in Canada, La Presse, was organized in various countries all over the world in coordination with the respective country's largest papers.
Gazeta Wyborcza writes that, despite obvious preference for Obama, Poland showed less support for him as compared to countries like France, where only seven percent of voters would choose Republican candidate John McCain. The poll shows that 80 percent of Canadians, Japanese, Brits, and Mexicans would vote democrat. Additionally, 52 percent of Poles feel that the opinion of the U.S. has decreased significantly during the last eight years of George Bush's leadership.
Our Dear President Obama
Piotr Pacewicz
Gazeta Wyborcza
2008-10-20
A poll asking about the US presidential candidates has been conducted in eight countries of the world. Poles prefer the Democrat, but compared with the other countries, show exceptionally strong support for the Republican. They also do not condemn George W. Bush's America and, as the only ones, would support a military intervention in Iran.
It was a somewhat crazy idea: to see who would win the US elections if they were held in the whole world. La Presse, Canada's largest French-language daily newspaper, invited the leading titles from many countries to participate. Seven responded positively: The Guardian (UK), Le Monde (France), Le Soir (Belgium), Le Temps (Switzerland) , Reforma (Mexico), The Daily Yomiuri (Japan), and Gazeta Wyborcza in Poland. Each of these ordered a poll in its respective country - a set of questions about US politics and policies.
Barack Obama would win the elections in all seven countries. In the heart of Europe he would do so crushingly - in France, only 7 percent of respondents 'voted' for Mr McCain, less than usually support the rightwing populist Le Pen in the polls. Similarly in Belgium and Switzerland. In Canada, Japan, Britain, and Mexico, some 80 percent of respondents were in favour of Obama.
Against this background, Poland's 62 percent for Mr Obama looks rather pale.
Poland is also the only country where Mr McCain's qualifications for presidency are seen as better than his rival's. The standard in the other countries is for twice as many respondents, and in France even three times as many, to point at Mr Obama than at Mr McCain as the better-qualified candidate.
Moreover, unlike in the US, the Polish social elites - better-educated respondents, more familiar with political matters, support Mr McCain more strongly than elsewhere. Mr Obama is more popular among older and less well-educated respondents. This may be a result of the so called cognitive access effect (people tend to choose what they know better), because Mr Obama has had more coverage in Poland than hid rival, especially during the long months when he fought for the Democrat nomination against Hillary Clinton. In Gazeta's poll in May, 35 percent of those polled preferred Mr Obama, as many as Ms Clinton, with only 8 percent in favour of Mr McCain.
Mr Bush used to be a cult figure in Poland, but since the invasion of Iraq his popularity has waned. In its May poll, a reverse of the Presse one, Gazeta asked which world politician would make the best president of Poland. Only 12 percent of respondents chose Mr Bush, two times less than Mr Blair and less than Ms Merkel. In a July poll by CBOS, the US influence on the world was for the first time ever seen as negative by more than half of respondents.
So yes, the traditional Polish affection for America has been waning, but its warmth nonetheless continues to warm our minds up. Though 52 percent of Polish respondents admit their perception of the US during Mr Bush's two terms has worsened, as many as 48 percent say the reverse. Compared with other countries, this looks almost like enthusiasm.
Only 8 percent of respondents say Polish-US relations are tense, with 45 percent perceiving them as friendly. In this regard, Poland is behind America's two traditional allies - the UK, and Canada.
Iraq is not a controversial issue for the respondents in the respective countries, the war is a closed chapter, and a vast majority of those polled are in favour of the next US president pulling the troops out. The same applies to the expectation that the US should play a more decisive role in addressing global warming.
The poll also asked about a potential US intervention in Iran. In all countries the majority of respondents were against it, only in Poland a slight majority said the matter was worth consideration.
'Thanks to us, America will find out who'd win its elections if the whole world were to vote. I thank Gazeta for participating in this project. I hope we meet again four years from now', says Philippe Cantin, chief editor of La Presse, the project's initiator.
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Post by locopolaco on Oct 25, 2008 22:34:27 GMT 1
^^^ that's actually not that surpripins Bonobo. despite what mike has said in the past, polish immigrants as well as many others, first align themselves with the conservatives. PL is rather conservative compared to the rest of EU. it is much more in line with current US stance. religion is strong in PL as it is in the USA now. the shift towards more conservative ideals here started perhaps a couple of decades ago. about the time of newt gingrich the religious right started to rear it's ugly head. of course none of this matters anyway, unless one is a citizen and votes. mike says so too.  |
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