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Post by valpomike on Jan 30, 2009 3:58:07 GMT 1
If he owns the home or is buying it, he has reason, if not, this is just bad luck for him, and he can't do anything.
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 30, 2009 19:59:16 GMT 1
If he owns the home or is buying it, he has reason, if not, this is just bad luck for him, and he can't do anything. Mike He can fight. Propagate his cause in the media, deter city officials and workers with Molotov c ocktails, write to President and Parliament, put up giant banners across the road. Call TV stations to shoot a film of expulsion. I think the peaceful guys get kicked in the butt the most. The ones who resist get what they want, at least part of it. This is called life.
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 30, 2009 20:05:22 GMT 1
Why was them thorwn out? It was game for fun, with this finger. They smiling doing it. Nothing controvertial. This is called political correctness.
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Post by gigi on Jan 30, 2009 20:55:55 GMT 1
Why was them thorwn out? It was game for fun, with this finger. They smiling doing it. Nothing controvertial. This is called political correctness. It's more than that. Cheerleaders are representatives for their sports team, and as such should conduct themselves in an appropriate manner. Bad sportsmanship (such as the displayed hand gestures) should not be tolerated. If a player did that to a rival player, he/she would be suspended from the game. I say those "ladies" should have been suspended as well.
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Post by Bonobo on Jan 31, 2009 19:52:36 GMT 1
Warsawians have problems with putting Krakow on road signs. Instead of Krakow, minor cities are mentioned. www.tvnwarszawa.pl/-1,1584064,0,,warszawscy_drogowcy_nie_ma_takiego_miasta_jak_krakow,wiadomosc.html The reasons are probably of historical nature. Soon Warsawians will rename Krakowskie Przedmieście into Kieleckie Przedmieście. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by gigi on Feb 3, 2009 17:04:20 GMT 1
Seven soldiers on trial for Afghan killings Created: 03.02.2009 12:00
The trial of seven Polish soldiers charged with killing Afghan civilians in a village of Nangar Khel, 16 August 2007, is currently underway in Warsaw.
The soldiers of the 18th Bielski Assault Landing Battalion appeared today in front of the Warsaw's Military District Court. Six of them could face life imprisonment for killing the Afghan civilians, while the seventh one, charged with firing at an undefended building, could face up to 15 years in prison.
The incident involved elite- unit soldiers who in 2007, are charged with unlawfully killing six civilians, including a pregnant woman and a child and seriously wounded three others, two of whom later died in hospital.
All of the accused soldiers plead not guilty.
The judge decided not to let media enter the courtroom, as they could disturb the course of the trial. (is)
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Post by gigi on Feb 3, 2009 17:13:40 GMT 1
History repeats… Created: 03.02.2009 16:11
The anti-fascist Nigdy wiecej (Never Again) organization has published comments made three years ago by a Polish historian, where he suggests that Poland should have been the capital of the Third Reich.
Adolf Hitler was an extraordinary politician and statesman of the 1939-1940 period, says historian Pawel Wieczorkiewicz in an interview he gave to the extreme right - wing publication Templum Novum.
The remarks have resurfaced as part of a campaign by Nigdy wiecej to show that the new director of TVP, Piotr Farfel, has, or had, Nazi sympathies. Wieczorkiewicz was an expert witness in a libel trial brought against the Gazeta Wyborcza daily after the newspaper printed an article reporting that in 1995 Farfal edited and published a racist skinhead magazine entitled Front, in which anti-Semitic remarks are made. The article ran under the headline: “Former neo-Nazi as new boss of TVP.” Farfel lost the court case.
In the three year old interview, Wieczorkiewicz regrets that Poland did not cooperate with the Third Reich, as both countries could have invaded the Soviet Union. The Nazis would then be able to unite Europe, with its capital in Warsaw, where Polish would be only one of three or four official languages.
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 4, 2009 20:14:42 GMT 1
Polish court reprimands topless sunbathers 11/7/08 Dorota Krzysztofek is one of two Polish women fined by a Polish court for sunbathing topless WARSAW (AFP) — A Polish court Friday reprimanded two Polish women, including a model who has appeared in men's magazines, for indecent exposure after they sunbathed topless, a rarity in the deeply Catholic country. "Showing nudity goes beyond social customs and norms in Poland," read part of the verdict issued by a court in Szczecin, northwest Poland. "Personal freedom ends where the freedom of another person begins." "I completely respect the court's verdict, but at the same time I disagree with it and I will certainly appeal it," Dorota Krzysztofek, 28, told Poland's TVN24 news channel. She also said she would be contacting Poland's ombudsman, a civil rights watchdog. The court also ruled the women would have to pay court fees of 130 zlotys (36 euro, 46 dollars). The verdict is subject to appeal. "Perhaps men will also have to cover up their torsos on the beach?" Krzysztofek said. "I see nothing indecent about the chests of men or women," she added. In May, policemen fined Krzystofek and her 26-year-old friend for sunbathing topless on a public beach in Szczecin. The women went to court after they failed to pay a fine of 150 zlotys (40 euros, 55 dollars). The case of the two women -- one of whom is a model and has appeared topless in Polish men's magazines -- sparked such massive media interest that a first hearing in September had to be postponed when too many reporters turned up to fit into the court gallery. The women pleaded not guilty to indecent exposure, arguing there was no explicit ban on going topless at the beach. They also said fellow sunbathers had not been offended, insisting that many had jumped to their defence. The two women refused to accept the sentence and appealed. The higher court acquitted them today, stating they hadn`t breached the law because nobody had felt offended at the beach except for the patroling policemen. The judge admonished the police for bringing "such a trivial case" to court. www.tvn24.pl/2196812,0,0,1,1,naga-prawda,wideo.html Though in Poland there is no precedence rule, this case means that women in Poland are free to sunbathe topless. Gigi, Jeanne, from now on you may feel unconstrained when in Poland.
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Post by gigi on Feb 4, 2009 23:13:54 GMT 1
"Perhaps men will also have to cover up their torsos on the beach?" Krzysztofek said. "I see nothing indecent about the chests of men or women," she added. And...um...I don't want to offend anyone, but if the issue is if someone is exposing breasts vs. a chest, I'd have to say that some men should be covering up their torsos on the beach. Please. The women pleaded not guilty to indecent exposure, arguing there was no explicit ban on going topless at the beach. They also said fellow sunbathers had not been offended, insisting that many had jumped to their defence. Anyone we know? ;D ;D ;D Though in Poland there is no precedence rule, this case means that women in Poland are free to sunbathe topless. Gigi, Jeanne, from now on you may feel unconstrained when in Poland. Hmm...I guess it would free up a bit of room in my suitcase.
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 4, 2009 23:19:31 GMT 1
And...um...I don't want to offend anyone, but if the issue is if someone is exposing breasts vs. a chest, I'd have to say that some men should be covering up their torsos on the beach. Please. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D hahahaha. Mike and Tufta. I have never been to Szczecin. Hmm...I guess it would free up a bit of room in my suitcase. Hey, not so fast! Better keep the bottom part of the costume. Going fully bare might not be let off by the court.
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Post by valpomike on Feb 5, 2009 2:33:17 GMT 1
She is HOT, and if you got them, and you are proud, and want to show them, it is sharing. I don't think she should be stopped, and where is that beach?
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Post by gigi on Feb 5, 2009 18:05:33 GMT 1
Can Polish women breastfeed their children in public (any laws against it)? Is it common? I couldn't find any definitive answers online.
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 5, 2009 18:55:06 GMT 1
Can Polish women breastfeed their children in public (any laws against it)? Is it common? I couldn't find any definitive answers online. i've seen it done in public but not a commonplace though, way back when anyway.
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 5, 2009 19:07:46 GMT 1
Warsawians have problems with putting Krakow on road signs. Instead of Krakow, minor cities are mentioned. www.tvnwarszawa.pl/-1,1584064,0,,warszawscy_drogowcy_nie_ma_takiego_miasta_jak_krakow,wiadomosc.html The reasons are probably of historical nature. Soon Warsawians will rename Krakowskie Przedmieście into Kieleckie Przedmieście. ;D ;D ;D ;D does it say WARSZAWA on the signs in Krakow? how historically? Gdansk is on there.. there are a few decent sized cities on the way, no? like you said, krakowskie przedmiescie is there for a good and historical reason, no? that kind of stuff bothers me here sometimes. i think it's that way in just some where there will be a sign that will say NYC 500mi. that's fine and dandy but i need something in between and many times even pretty large cities aren't on such info/directional signs. in my state nothing further then pretty much the next large city. i sometimes they would have signs that say the far away places along those highways. i like to travel here; every state is different in so many ways.
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 5, 2009 21:16:01 GMT 1
does it say WARSZAWA on the signs in Krakow? Yes, always. Krakowians are not as mean as Warsawians. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The patriotic Krakowian, the one who started the subject, would tell you a few bad words of commentary here ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D America isn`t Paradise after all? The signs are improper...... Hmmmmm........
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 5, 2009 21:24:59 GMT 1
Can Polish women breastfeed their children in public (any laws against it)? Is it common? I couldn't find any definitive answers online. i've seen it done in public but not a commonplace though, way back when anyway. There is no law which directly prohibits such behaviour. And, as long as sth is not forbidden, it is allowed. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I have seen tens of women feeding their babies in public, including my wife - I have wonderful photos! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. Of course, they don`t expose their breasts and nipples for everybody to see. They are covered by clothes or simply the baby screens them. In so religiously oriented country as Poland breastfeeding is considered completely asexual. It is normal that Polish women imitate their holy patron - Mary, God`s mother, who has been visualised in multiple pictures/images as a feeding mother. Even if there was a puritan silly enough to protest, he/she would be soon hushed down by the irritated mother or her husband or passers-by. I know about cases in US when breastfeeding women were thrown out of planes after they refused to put a blanket on themselves. American prudery can be really fascinating sometimes. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 5, 2009 21:41:17 GMT 1
so, why no krakow on signs in the cap city?
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Post by valpomike on Feb 5, 2009 23:56:06 GMT 1
Here, the best I know, can breastfeed in public, but most time, they cover them self. What does this have to with the top less bather, who is HOT.
Mike
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 6, 2009 0:00:05 GMT 1
so, why no krakow on signs in the cap city? Warsaw ignores Krakow. Mean attitude, that`s what it is. It is a result of certain inferiority complex. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Krakowians who let themselves be provoked are silly. True Krakowians are above it. Like me. I know better and that`s enough to feel complacent ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by gigi on Feb 6, 2009 0:10:10 GMT 1
Here, the best I know, can breastfeed in public, but most time, they cover them self. What does this have to with the top less bather, who is HOT. Mike I was simply curious if the attitude in Poland is that women can "expose" themselves to the public for functional purposes as well.
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 6, 2009 4:40:59 GMT 1
so, why no krakow on signs in the cap city? Warsaw ignores Krakow. Mean attitude, that`s what it is. It is a result of certain inferiority complex. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Krakowians who let themselves be provoked are silly. True Krakowians are above it. Like me. I know better and that`s enough to feel complacent ;D ;D ;D ;D inferiority complex, eh? hmmm..
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 6, 2009 4:42:30 GMT 1
Here, the best I know, can breastfeed in public, but most time, they cover them self. What does this have to with the top less bather, who is HOT. Mike I was simply curious if the attitude in Poland is that women can "expose" themselves to the public for functional purposes as well. i don't think peeing in the public park is cool. and the other thing, they have "clubs" for that. no windows.
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Post by gigi on Feb 6, 2009 21:03:33 GMT 1
I was simply curious if the attitude in Poland is that women can "expose" themselves to the public for functional purposes as well. i don't think peeing in the public park is cool. What about behind the garbage bins in a street in Warsaw? Who would do that (or let their children do that) ;D ;D ;D and the other thing, they have "clubs" for that. no windows. Uh, I think we are experiencing a lost in translation moment... ;D ;D
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 6, 2009 21:34:01 GMT 1
What about behind the garbage bins in a street in Warsaw? Who would do that (or let their children do that) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I know those guys.... They must be British tourists, they also do it in Krakow!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Because of them, Warsaw Council should put up boards: Don`t piss behind garbage containers in posh streets! Show good manners of your country!!!! and the other thing, they have "clubs" for that. no windows. Uh, I think we are experiencing a lost in translation moment... ;D ;D [/quote] Of course Loco means "maces" without windows.
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Post by locopolaco on Feb 6, 2009 23:51:16 GMT 1
Uh, I think we are experiencing a lost in translation moment... ;D ;D Of course Loco means "maces" without windows. i guess so i sure didn't mean morningstar.
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Post by jeanne on Feb 7, 2009 1:22:37 GMT 1
::)This thread has the weirdest mixture of conversations that I have ever seen! ;D
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Post by Bonobo on Feb 7, 2009 6:59:00 GMT 1
::)This thread has the weirdest mixture of conversations that I have ever seen! ;D It is like on a Chinese dinner table. 100 dishes and guests try a bit of everything.
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Post by valpomike on Feb 7, 2009 21:01:23 GMT 1
I will take a order of the egg rolls, please.
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Post by gigi on Feb 7, 2009 21:18:01 GMT 1
Taliban beheads Polish engineer Created: 07.02.2009 10:28
UPDATE - A spokesman for the Pakistan Taliban claimed, Saturday, that they have carried out the threat to behead Piotr Stanczak, the Polish engineer kidnapped in the northwest borderlands in Pakistan last September.
"We have beheaded the Polish engineer after the government failed to meet our demands,” said the spokesman, as reported by Pakistani media, referring to an earlier ultimatum whereby the Taliban threatened to kill the hostage if prisoners were not released and Islamic law was not put in place in certain regions of Pakistan.
Prime Minister Donald Tusk, in Munich this morning for an international security conference, says he has unofficial information which confirms that Stanczak is indeed dead.
The deadline for the ultimatum passed last Wednesday. It is reported that the Taliban have demanded 200,000 rupees (2,000 euro) for the return of the body.
On Thursday, Pakistani political scientist Aimal Khan claimed that he had had contact with the kidnappers personally and said the Polish engineer was alive and that the Taliban were still willing to negotiate his release.
Prime Minister Tusk said earlier that no ransom had been paid and his government would not negotiate with such groups.
As the deadline loomed last week, Dorota Bartula, an ex-partner of Stanczak and mother to his 13 year old son, appealed for the Polish government to be more active in securing his release. She also demanded that if the Taliban went ahead with their threat to kill the engineer - who works for the Geofizyka Krakow mining exploration company based in south Poland - then she would call for a report into why the Foreign Ministry had not done more to save him.
The Polish engineer was working for Geofizyka Krakow when he was abducted by armed assailants on September 28, some 200 km south-east of Islamabad. Three Pakistanis, a driver and two bodyguards, who accompanied the Polish engineer were shot dead during the kidnap. (pg)
Source: The News (Pakistan) Geo TV via thenews.pl
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Post by gigi on Feb 7, 2009 21:19:49 GMT 1
Tusk to meet Biden at Munich conference Created: 07.02.2009 11:26
Prime Minister Donald Tusk is to meet with US Vice-President Joe Biden at the annual Munich Security Conference, Saturday.
This is the first face-to-face talks between the US and Poland since the new Barack Obama administration took over the White House in January.
PM Tusk said Friday that he will be telling Biden that Poland is still ready to host the anti-missile system, as agreed between Warsaw and Washington last August: “We keep our promises,” said Tusk.
It is uncertain, however, whether Barack Obama wants to go ahead with the plan to situate 10 interceptor rockets in Slupsk, northern Poland, and the radar part of the system in the Czech Republic and is currently reviewing the plan drawn up by the previous Bush administration.
The two sides will also discuss Poland’s role in the multi-force mission in Afghanistan, where Poland has already committed over 1,500 troops.
Vice-President Biden will also have talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov. (pg)
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