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Post by locopolaco on Sept 2, 2008 18:07:55 GMT 1
oh and every repo is a responsible citizen? who are you kidding? Larry Craig anyone?? how about pill popping Rush L.?  |
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Post by gigi on Sept 2, 2008 19:12:47 GMT 1
Another topic certain to start some debates...  Tuesday, September 2, 2008 U.S. News CAMPAIGN NEWS Political, Media Worlds Sort Out Palin Daughter's Pregnancy With two front page stories on the topic, the New York Times sets two themes in today's media coverage of Sarah Palin's disclosure that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. The Times, noting not only the teenage daughter's pregnancy, but Palin's now newborn with Downs syndrome, says that women across America now are having "to address the question of just how demanding a job a mother with such intense family obligations should tackle." In their second theme, echoed elsewhere in the media, the New York Times questions whether the McCain campaign did their political homework before selecting Palin.Full article: www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080902.htmwomen across America now are having "to address the question of just how demanding a job a mother with such intense family obligations should tackle."[/b] What??? Are women solely responsible for the job/family obligations balance?  |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 2, 2008 20:24:45 GMT 1
She can do both and still have time. The V.P. job is a snap.
Mike
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Post by gigi on Sept 2, 2008 23:10:12 GMT 1
McCain fought money on teen pregnancy programs
By SHARON THEIMER
Fort Mill Times
(Published September 02, 2008)
WASHINGTON — Republican John McCain, whose running mate disclosed that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, has opposed proposals to spend federal money on teen-pregnancy prevention programs and voted to require poor teen mothers to stay in school or lose their benefits.
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's announcement Monday about her daughter Bristol was aimed at rebutting Internet rumors that Palin's youngest son, born in April, was actually her daughter's. Palin said her daughter intends to raise her child and marry the baby's father, identified in news reports as Levi Johnston, 18, of Wasilla, a high school hockey player whom Bristol has dated for about one year. The baby is due in late December.
McCain's record on issues surrounding teen pregnancy and contraceptives during his more than two decades in the Senate indicates that he and Palin have similar views. Until Monday, when the subject surfaced in a deeply personal manner, teen pregnancy and sex education were not issues in the national political campaign.
Palin herself said she opposes funding sexual-education programs in Alaska.
"The explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," she wrote in a 2006 questionnaire distributed among gubernatorial candidates.
McCain's position on contraceptives and teen pregnancy issues has been difficult to judge on the campaign trail, as he appears uncomfortable discussing such topics. Reporters asked the presumptive GOP presidential nominee in November 2007 whether he supported grants for sex education in the United States, whether such programs should include directions for using contraceptives and whether he supports President Bush's policy of promoting abstinence.
"Ahhh, I think I support the president's policy," McCain said.
When a reporter asked McCain whether he thought contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV, he replied: "You've stumped me." McCain said later that he was sure he opposed government spending on contraceptives. Asked whether he would oppose condom distribution if he knew that condoms stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, McCain said he had never gotten into those issues before.
The McCain campaign on Monday did not respond to repeated requests for information.
In Senate votes, McCain has opposed some proposals to pay for teen-pregnancy prevention programs. In 2006, McCain joined fellow Republicans in voting against a Senate Democratic proposal to send $100 million to communities for teen-pregnancy prevention programs that would have included sex education about contraceptives.
In 2005, McCain opposed a Senate Democratic proposal that would have spent tens of millions of dollars to pay for pregnancy prevention programs other than abstinence-only education, including education on emergency contraception such as the morning-after pill. The bill also would have required insurance companies that cover Viagra to also pay for prescription contraception.
McCain voted for the Family Support Act in 1988, which passed overwhelmingly in the Senate and required teen mothers who receive public assistance to remain in high school and, in some cases, to live with their parents.
"Young parents who have not completed high school will be required to stay in or return to school to complete the basic education so necessary to a productive life," said President Reagan, as he signed the law in October 1988.
McCain cited abortion, sex education and birth control as some of the issues on which he differed with Joycelyn Elders, former President Clinton's nominee for surgeon general. He quoted Elders as telling lawmakers that abortion has had positive health effects, including reducing the number of children "afflicted with severe defects."
"As a father of a number of young children, including an adopted daughter who was born with a birth defect, I am deeply, deeply troubled by these views," McCain said in a 1993 speech opposing Elders' confirmation.
Palin's fifth child, a son named Trig, was born in April with Down syndrome, a genetic abnormality that impedes physical, intellectual and language development. Conservatives supportive of Palin as McCain's running mate have praised her choice to deliver Trig even after the family learned about his condition during prenatal testing.
McCain said the country unarguably had a problem with teen pregnancy, but said Elders' approach would only make it worse. He said Elders started a program to distribute condoms in schools, but the rate of teen pregnancy actually rose in those counties. When it turned out many of the condoms were defective, Elders decided to continue the program rather than halt it or inform the public of the risk, McCain added.
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 0:32:53 GMT 1
Gigi,
Please post what you think, not some else. I know you want to, but think someone may jump on you, but even if they did, so what, take my word for it, it does not hurt.
Most of the reports we can read in paper, or see on T.V., some correct news slips past the bias media.
Mike
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Post by gigi on Sept 3, 2008 1:25:52 GMT 1
Gigi, Please post what you think, not some else. I know you want to, but think someone may jump on you, but even if they did, so what, take my word for it, it does not hurt. Most of the reports we can read in paper, or see on T.V., some correct news slips past the bias media. Mike I have expressed my opinions on several things. Do you want my opinion on sex education? I think kids need to have a clear understanding about sex - what it is involves physically and emotionally and what the potential consequences are. If the parents won't talk to their kids about it (and believe me, some won't), then I feel that having a formal education program is very valuable. |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 1:31:21 GMT 1
Yes, you have my full support on this, now tell us, what YOU think of Obama, and why he sucks.
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 1:51:25 GMT 1
In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on "crime and hatred". Moreover, she stated that white in America were "ineradicable racist". The 1985 thesis, titles "Princeton-Educated Black and the Black Community" was written under her maiden name, Michel LaVaugh Robinson. Michele OBama stated in her thesis the to "whites at Princeton", it ofter seems as if, fellow black classmates, If those Whites at Princeton" really say Michele as one who always would be "Black First," it seems that she gave them that impression. Most alarming is Michele Obama's use of the terms, 'separations', and separations, and integrations, when describing the views of black people. Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a 'separations' view of race. Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder. Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America, but she elevate black over white in her world. Michele's poll of black alumni concludes that other black students at Princeton do not Share her obsession with blackness. Michele Obama's intellectually refined racism should give all Americans pause for deep concern. Mow maybe she's changed, but she sure sounds like someone with a Axe to grind with America. Will the press let Michele get a free pass over her obviously racist comment about American white? I am sure that it will.
P.S We paid for her scholarship.
What do you think of this.
Mike
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Post by gigi on Sept 3, 2008 1:58:15 GMT 1
Yes, you have my full support on this, now tell us, what YOU think of Obama, and why he sucks. I don't think he sucks. I don't agree with everything he says/believes, nor do I agree with everything McCain says/believes. This thread has reminded me of why I dislike politics. The more you examine the issues and candidate positions, bipartisan gridlock and mudslinging, you begin to wonder if any of these politicians really care about the American people and the future of our country (let alone those in other parts of the world). Is anyone really concerned about making this country better, or is the main concern getting your party in the power seat for the next four years? |
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Post by gigi on Sept 3, 2008 2:19:30 GMT 1
What do you think of this [Michele Obama's senior thesis at Princeton]? ...The 1985 thesis, titles "Princeton-Educated Black and the Black Community" was written under her maiden name, Michel LaVaugh Robinson. ...Mow maybe she's changed... It was written 23 years ago, so her views may have changed since then. I do find it interesting that it was withdrawn from Princeton's library. In any case, it's a huge document and I haven't read it all yet. Here's the link for those who want to read it: www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.htmlIt is separated into four parts. |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 4:12:42 GMT 1
If she and her husband changed it would be for the worst.
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 3, 2008 7:30:52 GMT 1
as the repo world turns. and someone wants at least 4 more freaking years of that? old mac is starting to make shrubco look like a freaking genus.  |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 3, 2008 7:35:41 GMT 1
. What do you think of this. Mike and she's running for what office? mute pt. btw. i agree with her that many american whites are inherently racist. that's based on my observation. |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 3, 2008 7:37:04 GMT 1
If she and her husband changed it would be for the worst. that's jusy effed up vm. |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 14:12:15 GMT 1
I am so sorry for you, that you can't read, or listen to some, few of the un-bias news, and hear the truth. But for someone who can't vote, you have a lot to say, without saying anything.
Try FOX NEWS, for the truth.
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 3, 2008 14:35:53 GMT 1
I am so sorry for you, that you can't read, or listen to some, few of the un-bias news, and hear the truth. But for someone who can't vote, you have a lot to say, without saying anything. Try FOX NEWS, for the truth. oh lord. no wonder you are out of touch just like mac is. fox is definitely the furthest from the truth. i really o feel sorry for you. my condolences.. |
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Post by gigi on Sept 3, 2008 14:47:53 GMT 1
Try FOX NEWS, for the truth. Okay, I'll give it a try.  OBAMA HITS 50 PERCENT IN NEW GALLUP POLL by FOXNews.com Tuesday, September 2, 2008 Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has reached the 50 percent milestone in the latest Gallup Poll, the first time he has hit the threshold considered to be a safe number for victory.
According to Gallup’s Daily Tracking Poll, the Democratic presidential nominee now maintains an 8-point lead over Republican John McCain, 50 percent to 42 percent.
McCain, despite enjoying the media spotlight at this week’s Republican National Convention, is “well below” his 48 percent top support level, recorded in late April/early May, in a hypothetical match-up against Obama, said Gallup pollster Lydia Saad. He is “just slightly better” than the 40 percent he was getting during the Democratic convention last week.
Meanwhile, the percentage of undecided voters is at its lowest since early June at 8 percent. “This, in part, reflects movement of voters toward Obama over the course of the Democratic National Convention, a lead which has been sustained in subsequent days,” Saad said.
However, Gallup surmised that 24-hour news coverage of Hurricane Gustav and Monday’s news that the unwed 17-year-old daughter of McCain’s vice presidential pick Sarah Palin is pregnant crowded out traditional coverage of the convention.
“The Republicans hope to start up a more traditional convention schedule today in St. Paul, with the goal of capturing the same kind of media and public attention the Democrats did last week in Denver,” wrote Saad.
Today’s numbers included polling from Aug. 30 through Sept. 1. The margin of error is 2 points in the poll of 2,772 registered voters nationwide. |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 3, 2008 15:45:08 GMT 1
;D
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 17:26:33 GMT 1
Loco,
More slanted news reporting, just bunk, not the truth. That ad could have paid by the Demo party.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 17:32:40 GMT 1
Loco,
I hope that when and if you ever have a legal wright to vote, you will use better judgment, than what you have showed so far. But like I said in the past, you are just here to make the big American money, and complain, and nothing more.
I feel sorry for you, with such a closed mind, if you have one. Why can't you look at both sides, not just the Party, as you do.
Mike
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 17:34:25 GMT 1
Loco,
You act like a young man without any ideas for yourself, just a follower. Grow up and think for yourself, it can't hurt.
Mike
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Post by gigi on Sept 3, 2008 18:54:45 GMT 1
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Post by grammyk on Sept 3, 2008 19:24:05 GMT 1
Gigi, They're all so good I can't pick a favorite! I'll just close my eyes and point.....like how some people vote in elections... Thanks for the laugh!!!!! |
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Post by locopolaco on Sept 3, 2008 19:41:44 GMT 1
Editorial Candidate McCain’s Big Decision Published: September 2, 2008 Correction Appended More often than not, the role of a vice president is a minor one, unless some tragedy occurs. But a presidential nominee’s choice of a running mate is vitally important. It is his first executive decision and offers an important insight into how that nominee would lead the nation. If John McCain wants voters to conclude, as he argues, that he has more independence and experience and better judgment than Barack Obama, he made a bad start by choosing Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska. Mr. McCain’s supporters are valiantly trying to argue that the selection was a bold stroke that shows their candidate is a risk-taking maverick who — we can believe — will change Washington. (Mr. Obama’s call for change — now “the change we need” — has become all the rage in St. Paul.) To us, it says the opposite. Mr. McCain’s snap choice of Ms. Palin reflects his impulsive streak: a wild play that he made after conservative activists warned him that he would face an all-out revolt in the party if he chose who he really wanted — Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut. Why Mr. McCain would want to pander to right-wing activists — who helped George W. Bush kill off his candidacy in the 2000 primaries in a particularly ugly way — is baffling. Frankly, they have no place to go. Mr. McCain would have a lot more success demonstrating his independence, and his courage, if he stood up to them the way he did in 2000. As far as we can tell, Mr. McCain and his aides did almost no due diligence before choosing Ms. Palin, raising serious questions about his management skills. The fact that Ms. Palin’s 17-year-old daughter is pregnant is irrelevant to her candidacy. There are, however, very serious questions about her political past and her ideology. If Mr. McCain wanted to break with his party’s past and choose the Republicans’ first female vice presidential candidate, there are a number of politicians out there with far greater experience and stature than Ms. Palin, who has been in Alaska’s Statehouse for less than two years. Before she was elected governor, she was mayor of a tiny Anchorage suburb, where her greatest accomplishment was raising the sales tax to build a hockey rink. According to Time magazine, she also sought to have books banned from the local library and threatened to fire the librarian. For Mr. McCain to go on claiming that Mr. Obama has too little experience to be president after almost four years in the United States Senate is laughable now that he has announced that someone with no national or foreign policy experience is qualified to replace him, if necessary. Senator Lindsey Graham, the South Carolina Republican who has been one of Mr. McCain’s most loyal friends, said Tuesday that he was certain that Ms. Palin would take the right positions on issues like Iraq, Russia’s invasion of Georgia and Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions. That seemed based largely on his repeated assertion that Ms. Palin would be tended by Mr. McCain’s foreign policy advisers. That was not much of an endorsement. Some of the things Ms. Palin has had to say in the recent past about foreign policy are especially worrisome. In a speech last June to her former church in Wasilla, Ms. Palin said the war in Iraq was “a task that is from God.” Mr. Bush made similar claims as he rejected all sound mortal advice on how to conduct the war. Mr. McCain, Mr. Graham and others also claim that Ms. Palin is a fearless reformer who is committed to fighting waste, fraud and earmarks. Ms. Palin did show courage taking on some of the Alaska Republican Party’s most sleazy politicians. But she also was an eager recipient of earmarked money as a mayor and governor. Mayor Palin gathered up $27 million in subsidies from Washington, $15 million of it for a railroad from her town to the ski resort hometown of Senator Ted Stevens, now under indictment for failing to report gifts. The Republicans are presenting Ms. Palin as a crusader against Mr. Stevens’s infamous “Bridge to Nowhere.” The record says otherwise; she initially supported Mr. Stevens’s boondoggle, diverting the money to other projects when the bridge became a political disaster. In her speech to the Wasilla Assembly of God in June, Ms. Palin said it was “God’s will” that the federal government contribute to a $30 billion gas pipeline she wants built in Alaska. Mr. McCain will make his acceptance speech on Thursday, and Ms. Palin will speak on Wednesday. Those two appearances will go a long way to forming voters’ views of this Republican ticket. As Senator Graham noted, Mr. McCain has to reach out beyond the party’s loyal base. “We’re going to have to win this thing,” he said. “This is not our race to lose.” Mr. McCain’s hurdles are substantial. To start, he has to overcome Mr. Bush’s record of failures. (The president addressed the convention Tuesday night and now, McCain strategists fervently hope, will retire quietly to the Rose Garden.) That record includes the disastrous war in Iraq, a ballooning deficit, the mortgage crisis — and the list goes on. To address those many problems, this country needs a leader with sound judgment and strong leadership skills. Choosing Ms. Palin raises serious questions about Mr. McCain’s qualifications. This article has been revised to reflect the following correction: Correction: September 3, 2008 An earlier version of this editorial misstated the number of years Barack Obama has served in the United States Senate. He has served for almost four years not almost three years. www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/opinion/03wed1.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 22:52:04 GMT 1
Loco,
These are not you ideas, just something you read from the Demo.
And like I said before, if you could vote, you would not vote for God if he was a Repu.
Mike
Post you own ideas, not something you read.
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Post by valpomike on Sept 3, 2008 22:54:21 GMT 1
Loco,
I am self-employed, but don't you work? You have much time, at all times of the day and night, to post your remarks. If you don't work, how will you have enough money to return to Poland?
Mike
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Post by gigi on Sept 4, 2008 0:28:51 GMT 1
I'm confused...first the Palins ask the media for privacy, but now they plan to have the baby's father at the convention? Maybe they tricked him and told him that he was going to meet with the WILD (since they play at the X)?
Levi Johnston to join Palin family at Republican convention
By RACHEL D'ORO , Associated Press
Last update: September 3, 2008 - 7:28 AM
WASILLA, Alaska - The boyfriend of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's unwed, pregnant daughter will join the family of the Republican vice presidential candidate at the GOP convention in St. Paul, Minn.
Levi Johnston's mother said her 18-year-old son left Alaska on Tuesday morning to join the Palin family at the convention where Sen. John McCain will officially receive the Republican nomination for president. The boy's mother, Sherry Johnston, said there had been no pressure put on her son to marry 17-year-old Bristol Palin and the two teens had made plans to wed before it was known she was pregnant.
"This is just a bonus," Johnston said.
The young man's presence could set off a media frenzy around the young couple as photographers and cameramen scramble for pictures of the two teenagers. On Monday, Palin and her husband, Todd, said their 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, planned to have the baby and wed a young man identified only as Levi. The family asked the media to respect the young couple's privacy as has been the tradition with children of candidates.
Sarah Palin is scheduled to address the convention Wednesday night and traditionally her family would join her at the conclusion of her speech.
Sherry Johnston said she was worried about her son dealing with all the attention. She said it was difficult enough for teenagers to deal with any pregnancy, having the entire nation watching made it worse.
Levi Johnston, a high school hockey player for Wasilla High School, is not listed on the team roster for 2008-2009, and his mother wouldn't say if he graduated. She said simply he's no longer a student and any further information would have to come from him.
The intense media scrutiny has stunned this suburban community about 40 miles north of Anchorage, with reporters camping out near the Johnston home.
"This is out of my league," Sherry Johnston said. "I'm just a country gal and I want to keep it that way."
She spoke Tuesday while standing in the driveway leading to her pale gray, two-story home situated on a densely wooded country lane. The home, like many in Alaska is adorned with moose and caribou antlers outside.
Many social conservatives have rallied behind Gov. Palin and her family's troubles. The McCain campaign has said the Palins are like any other American family and that "life happens."
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said that Palin's family and her daughter's pregnancy were not relevant to her potential performance as vice president. "I think people's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics."
Just days after she was picked as McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin has become a lightning rod for attention. Aside from her daughter's pregnancy, it was disclosed that a private attorney has been retained for her in a legislative ethics investigation for her dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner. It also was disclosed that Palin's husband had been arrested on a drunken-driving charge two decades ago.
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Post by valpomike on Sept 4, 2008 1:59:37 GMT 1
So what, he is not running for anything.
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Post by gigi on Sept 4, 2008 4:44:57 GMT 1
So what, he is not running for anything. Just didn't like the mixed message. |
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Post by valpomike on Sept 4, 2008 17:38:12 GMT 1
Anyway Obama still sucks, more so since we got hear our soon to be new V.P. Sarah. She is great, and with her, we will win.
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